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PostSubject: Ivomec question   Ivomec question EmptySun Aug 04, 2013 4:27 pm

For anyone who uses Ivomec... my breeder uses and recommends this, but says not to use it until pups hit the 6 month mark. Has anyone used it for pups younger or do I use something else until we reach that age?
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PostSubject: Re: Ivomec question   Ivomec question EmptySun Aug 04, 2013 10:16 pm

Personally, I would try and be safe and just IverHeart or Heartguard until the dog is bigger just because their weight changes so drastically from 8 weeks - 12 months
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PostSubject: Re: Ivomec question   Ivomec question EmptyMon Aug 05, 2013 11:12 am

You can but you have to watch it closely in long haired dogs usually because of genetics that can cause them to have bad reactions. (usually in Collies and herding dogs) 1/10 of a cc for every 10lbs given orally is the normal but I would dilute to a 1/10cc for every 20 for under 6 months in a husky to be on the safe side. We always started at 3 months with our dogs but know some that started earlier. Main thing is to make sure the dog doesn't have heartworms before you start it. If the dog is heartworm positive when dosed Ivomec will most likely kill the dog.

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PostSubject: Re: Ivomec question   Ivomec question EmptyMon Aug 05, 2013 1:34 pm

I usually only give 1/10 of a cc period. It's more than enough for the 40-50lbdog. Ill ask my breeder what she uses for puppies
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PostSubject: Re: Ivomec question   Ivomec question EmptyMon Aug 05, 2013 3:59 pm

mbarnard0429 wrote:
I usually only give 1/10 of a cc period. It's more than enough for the 40-50lbdog. Ill ask my breeder what she uses for puppies

Thanks! My breeder told me the 1/10 cc for every 10 lbs too. I just didn't know whether to buy it now or hold off if I have to use something else for the first 6 months or so.
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PostSubject: Re: Ivomec question   Ivomec question EmptyMon Aug 05, 2013 4:44 pm

Ivomec dosing is something I have seen soooo much varied information for all over the place.  I am curious what dosing schedule everyone here is using and where they got their dosage amounts from.

The majority of people I have talked to seem to follow the 1/10th cc per 10 lbs.  But then you can easily find tons of postings online saying that is too high and a much lower dosing schedule is more adequate.  My breeder uses Ivomec (1% cattle solution) on her adult dogs and puppies and she got her recommended dosage from her vet.  She uses the 1/10th cc per 10 lbs (i.e. 0.1 ml/cc per 10 lbs; or 0.01 ml/cc per pound since she's a Chihuahua breeder and needs doses for 3-6 lb dogs) on her adult dogs as well as puppies over 6 months.  And that 0.1 ml per 10 lbs she uses is undiluted for reference. Oh and my breeder doesn't use Ivomec on puppies under 6 months.

I know Kristina shared the 0.003 ml/lb formula in the Heartworm meds thread which also seems to be commonly used, although not nearly as widely used as the 0.01 ml/lb formula.

The problem I would have, being a Chihuahua owner, with the 0.003 ml/lb formula is the dose for my 5 lb dog would be so small that I don't think I could find a syringe with measurements small enough for his size even if I wanted to follow that formula.  Prince weighs 5 lbs, 5 oz and his breeder was giving him a 0.05 ml dose of Ivomec per her vets recommendation.  FWIW, my breeder has been using the 0.01 ml/lb formula for a long time and has never had a problem.

I haven't used Ivomec on my dogs but have considered doing so when I run out of Heartgard. I still have a years worth of Heartgard Plus for Dakota and 2 years worth of Heartgard Plus for Prince so I have a ways to go before I can even seriously decide to go one way or the other.

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PostSubject: Re: Ivomec question   Ivomec question EmptyMon Aug 05, 2013 5:14 pm

I do 0.1ml/cc for each of my sibes, their weights ranging from 50-65lbs. I give it to them every 45 days.
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PostSubject: Re: Ivomec question   Ivomec question EmptyMon Aug 05, 2013 5:35 pm

I also use .003 ml/cc for Juneau. It's roughly .16 ml (she is 52 lbs). I've been doing it since she was about 7 months. We just went to the vet for her yearly check-up and she has no heart worms.
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PostSubject: Re: Ivomec question   Ivomec question EmptyMon Aug 05, 2013 6:59 pm

Is it a big cost difference? I don't even know how much heart guard costs or a bottle of Ivermectin for that matter. I have a wife, I make money and turn it over to her, that's the last I see of it. I use Panacure and Positive Pellet for the goats so it isn't like I have Ivermec on hand. Just being curious and making conversation.














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PostSubject: Re: Ivomec question   Ivomec question EmptyMon Aug 05, 2013 8:05 pm

Jennet&Embry wrote:
I do 0.1ml/cc for each of my sibes, their weights ranging from 50-65lbs. I give it to them every 45 days.



Just to clarify, do you do only 0.1 ml/cc per dog total or 0.1 ml/cc per so many pounds?


Jennet and Jackie, where did you get your dosage amounts from if you don't mind my asking? A breeder, vet, friend, website, etc?


Hughie, it is significantly cheaper to do the Ivomec yourself versus buying the prescription heartworm meds. How much less will depend on what you pay for heartworm prevention as well as how much you can acquire Ivomec or a similar product for which varies.

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PostSubject: Re: Ivomec question   Ivomec question EmptyMon Aug 05, 2013 11:23 pm

Good to know. Thanks everyone. I guess I'll be putting the pup on something else til 6 months.

Hughie: A bottle of ivermectin is around $40 from what i can find in my area and due to using such a small amount, would expire before the bottle is gone. As Val said, it's definitely cheaper if you're paying full price for your regular heartworm meds!
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PostSubject: Re: Ivomec question   Ivomec question EmptyTue Aug 06, 2013 6:42 pm

Val, that is per dog and I got my dosage from breeders in my area, but I'm debating uping it to .02cc
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