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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:12 pm

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Jason, isn't much I can say except hang in there!  I can't begin to imagine how your emotions must be handling the roller-coaster.  Take care of all //al

THank you, it's hard being at work 1 1/2 hours away and not being with him all day!
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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:13 pm

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This is why I'm so thankful for the relationship I have with my vet. She and I have become very good friends (she's my age), and I can call her anytime I need something. I always call the office during the day though.

Jason, if you had the opportunity to test out an implanted detection device with Yukon, would you? Something that would record brain waves and then interface with like a smart phone app or something.

It would actually depend on financially what I would have to come up with. Even though I would do anything in the world for them, I do have limitations Sad I have never heard of the detection device though, it would be interesting to see the differences or to be able to predict when one would be coming.
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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:15 pm

I did talk to the vet, and they want me to increase his dosage to 90mg twice a day, which is double what he was getting, and we are going in for the tests on Friday. Hopefully this will work, I also emailed the Canna Companion website and they gave me some information that I will be taking to the vet to discuss as well.

Paws crossed that he has a good night!
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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:21 pm

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www.cannaforpets.com, they are awesome to work with. We were part of their "extra strength" trial this summer, and finally felt like we had pretty decent control again.

They have been VERY Helpful at Canna Companion! I am going to discuss with my vet and see if it is legal in my state, since the webinar they gave me does say that some states may have stricter regulations, and Indiana is not known for being very progressive
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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:34 pm

Hopefully you can get it, but yeah, Indiana. I'm from Illinois originally Razz

The reason you haven't heard of such a device is because its not made. Yet... I'll be in touch with you on that one.

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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:35 pm

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Hopefully you can get it, but yeah, Indiana. I'm from Illinois originally Razz

The reason you haven't heard of such a device is because its not made. Yet... I'll be in touch with you on that one.

Thanks so much! I looked up the laws, and it does appear that they passed a law earlier this year allowing to purchase as long as it is less than 1% THC and not for human consumption.
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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:06 pm

Well, we went to the vet on Friday. First at 8am and they took blood for the low level pheno test, and then back at 2pm for the peak level pheno and the CBC tests.

I got the results yesterday, and his pheno levels are well within the therapeutic range since he has been on the 97mg twice a day, so they are going to keep him on the higher dosage.

His CBC was all normal, except for the ALT and ALP which were just slightly elevated and outside the "normal" range. The vet said that is expected while on pheno, so we will go back in 6 months for tests. He hasn't had anymore seizures since he has been on the increased dosage, so that is a good thing
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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:26 pm

That *is* a real good thing, hope everything continues to hold.

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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:11 pm

Good, I hope it continues for him (and you). Do you have him on any sort of liver supplement? We were on Denamarin, and you can get decent prices on Amazon and at Costco. They do a mail order pharmacy and you don't need to be a member, just fyi. That's where we got all of Shadow's meds, they kept it affordable for us.

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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:39 pm

No, the vet didn't seem concerned about the test results and I didn't ask him about it. I didn't even see the actual vet when I went in and just talked to him over the phone when they gave me the results
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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:26 pm

I would go ahead and start protecting his liver now, it'll help stave off damage in the future. Instead of Denamarin, you can use milk thistle and/or SAMe as well which individually are a bit cheaper. Denamarin is a combination of the two.

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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:39 pm

Thanks! I will check out the milk thistle
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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:04 pm

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I would go ahead and start protecting his liver now, it'll help stave off damage in the future.  Instead of Denamarin, you can use milk thistle and/or SAMe as well which individually are a bit cheaper.  Denamarin is a combination of the two.


How much should I give him?  I found some on Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Thistle-Standardized-Silymarin/dp/B0013OULVA/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1420412484&sr=8-8&keywords=milk+thistle+for+dogs.  
It says to give a dog his weight about 40-50% of a human dosage, but I am not sure what the human dosage is.  Do you give it once a day?
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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:28 pm

Kody is on Milk Thistle as well. The dosage for humans on the ones we have are 2 capsules a day and I give Kody one  at dinner. I think they are 250mg each. Not sure. I'm curious if I'm giving him the right amount as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:38 pm

Meredith: I'm so sorry to hear about Shadow. I've always felt connected to Shadow because of Lyra's problems. Her hunger drive is probably our biggest issue, as her cocktail of drugs appears to have her seizures under control. She raids the kitchen counter regularly, and has learned how to use the bar stools to climb up onto the counter for stuff she can't reach from the floor. Shadow's story (if I understand it correctly) changes one's perception of our "counter thief" from comical to deadly serious.
Melissa: After her last round of blood tests our vet suggested the Milk Thistle and SAMe for Lyra as well. I'm not sure of the dose however. Please let me know if you get clarification of the dosage, and what is Yukon's weight? Lyra just weighed in at 52 lbs. We feed her at least one can of green beans every day to help with her hunger urges.
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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:42 pm

I have noticed a definite change in Yukon in regards to counter surfing and trying to get whatever I am eating/drinking, as he is way more aggressive in wanting food. Not in the vicious way, but the curious way.

Yukon is between 42 and 46 lbs depending on what scale you use. At the vet they had him at 42lbs, but when I weight him on my scale he is almost 47lbs
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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:42 pm

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I would go ahead and start protecting his liver now, it'll help stave off damage in the future.  Instead of Denamarin, you can use milk thistle and/or SAMe as well which individually are a bit cheaper.  Denamarin is a combination of the two.



How much should I give him?  I found some on Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Thistle-Standardized-Silymarin/dp/B0013OULVA/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1420412484&sr=8-8&keywords=milk+thistle+for+dogs.  
It says to give a dog his weight about 40-50% of a human dosage, but I am not sure what the human dosage is.  Do you give it once a day?  

Shoot Jay, I'm sorry I just saw this. I was giving Denamarin, which was formulated for dogs, but I can try to find out for you. Melissa gave good info too.

Kevin, the hunger drive is just one more thing to deal with. Most people have to deal with it, and no matter how careful you are sometimes things happen. You're in Boulder though, you should look into CBD stuff. Check out Canna Companion, but you also might try to get your hands on some Charlotte's Web or something. Just make sure whatever you give has extremely low THC since that's toxic to dogs. It really does make a difference on the seizures though. Also, I forgot you were in Boulder. Aaron just got a job out there, and most of my good prospects are in the Boulder area too. I was just there to visit, I'm so exited to move. We love it!

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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:11 pm

Kody would never get into the garbage or counter suffer until he started on the pheno. We always had to watch out for Asia, but Kody is like a maniac! I can't leave him unattended in the kitchen for more than 10 seconds. He always starts asking for dinner like 2 hours early and is VERY persistent Shocked Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:30 pm

Yukon has always been a little crazy when it came to food. He would gulp his food down in seconds, always wanting to eat earlier than dinner time. After he started on pheno last year it didn't change too much, but now that he is at 2x the dose he is getting more pushy when it comes to his food!
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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:00 am

Meredith

You will be moving to Boulder? That would awesome! We have a favorite tasting room that is dog friendly. Lyra loves the cool cement floor, and all the attention a pretty, fuzzy and friendly husky gets! Not to mention the beer is some of the best as well.

Cheers!
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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:01 am

Kevin, what tasting room?
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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:23 am

We're sort of eyeing Superior as where we want to buy, but ultimately it depends on where I wind up working. There's a chance I'll wind up at Lockheed in Littleton, so that would drive us a little further south.

I love the Colorado breweries, and you have my attention with this tasting room... drunken

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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:54 am

Our favorite is the Upslope Brewery off Lee Hill road on the north end of Boulder.

Be aware that the Rocky Flats plutonium factory was just south of Boulder: some of that land probably still glows in the dark...
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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:48 pm

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Be aware that the Rocky Flats plutonium factory was just south of Boulder: some of that land probably still glows in the dark...

Yep, we've looked at the fallout patterns and all of that stuff. Pretty much knocked Arvada out of contention as a place to live, but we much prefer that Superior/Lafayette/Louisville area anyway.

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PostSubject: Re: Yukon started having Seizures   Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:06 am

So I gave Yukon a 150mg milk thistle pill an hour ago and he had another seizure. It was very light and not as severe but he's been on double his dosage of pheno for 3 weeks not sure if it is a coincidence or had something to do with the milk thistle
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