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PostSubject: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptySun Feb 09, 2014 6:14 pm

As many of you surely know the Westminster Dog Show is Monday and Tuesday, airing 8-11 each on CNBC and USA, respectively.

Monday night will be the Hound, Toy, Non-Sporting, and Herding groups.
Tuesday night will be the Sporting, Working, Terrier groups, and Best in Show.

Monday and Tuesday daytime westminsterkennelclub.org will be live streaming all of the best of breed judging. The Husky judging is Tuesday at 1 ET/10 PT.

I figured we could start a thread to discuss everything and where we can all chime in on stories, dogs you know, people you know, dogs in your dog's pedigree, and comment on the judging results, etc.



I've always loved watching the show. It's one of my fondest bonding moments with my mother that we did together every year when she was alive and I was a kid.

I found out from Link's breeder that one of the Husky competitors, CH Innisfree's Chuck A Luck, is Link's grandfather. I will be watching the breed judging Tuesday for sure.

Also.....we don't have TV access at home and I have yet to find a way to watch the Group Show online when it airs. Does anyone know of a way to watch online? Is anyone able to record a DVD of it at home and willing to send it to me? I really wanna watch it one way or the other.

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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptySun Feb 09, 2014 8:02 pm

I might have to go visit my family Monday to see it we don't have cable. I normally don't miss it but every now and then there is something I want to see.
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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptyMon Feb 10, 2014 1:55 am

am a novice lol I don't no much about the Westminster dog show or how they judge it but I did saw a couple segment of it as I was finishing up my assignments it was really cool to watch all the dogs Smile n I don't think it was on cable I watched it on regular tv
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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptyMon Feb 10, 2014 3:32 am

The Westminster Show is a standard dog show, but it is the premier dog show by the AKC in the country.

For every pure breed there is a standard that illustrates the ideal dog in that breed that is determined by breed purpose, functionality, and all of the physical measurements of the breed. Our breed standard is set by the Siberian Husky Club of America http://shca.org/.

Qualified dogs compete in the Best of Breed round, where a winner is crowned to represent the breed at large. Then each breed winner competes in the Best of Group, where there are 7 groups: Hound, Toy, Sporting, Non-Sporting, Working, Herding, and Terrier. Once the 7 winners of each group are chosen, then those 7 group representatives compete in the final round for Best In Show.

That's the basic set up and how it is formatted.
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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptyMon Feb 10, 2014 9:05 am

I like the sporting group, the working group, and watching the handlers do that funny running thing they do!
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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptyMon Feb 10, 2014 9:15 am

My mom used to raise Old English Sheepdogs, took one to Westminster. Lots of other shows, too. Let me assure you - Siberians are not the only dogs with hair Mad  To this day, I hate vacuuming because of all that dog hair on the plush wool carpet. However, the sibe personality more than makes up for it Very Happy  I'm not interested in showing - all I remember was all the politics and the endless grooming. And running around after a bitch who wouldn't lay down delivering her first puppy and the puppy was hanging out and me chasing her with my hands ready to catch the puppy when it fell out and hollaring my head off for my mother to come down to the basement...Ami is neutered lol! 
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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptyMon Feb 10, 2014 10:23 am

Apparently you can watch live-stream judging from the Web site: http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/

There's also an app. I think you can also watch a live stream from it on your phone as well. I'm going to download it and see what happens!
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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptyMon Feb 10, 2014 10:32 am

If you're going to watch live streaming via the Web or the app, the husky judging will be in Ring 11. As Jeff mentioned, it's Tuesday at 1 p.m. EST. To watch video on the app or through the Web you must choose the ring you want to watch.
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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptyMon Feb 10, 2014 10:55 am

I'm watching the basset hounds right now. Cute, weird looking little pups. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptyMon Feb 10, 2014 11:18 am

My friend just won in the Ibizan Hound! She won last year too, but with a different dog!
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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptyMon Feb 10, 2014 11:24 am

There are so many, I can't decide which one to watch! Sad
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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptyMon Feb 10, 2014 2:14 pm

I'll be watching the Diamondt Siberian. His name is Aden and he's a good looking dog.
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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptyMon Feb 10, 2014 2:22 pm

@mbarnard0429 wrote:
I'll be watching the Diamondt Siberian. His name is Aden and he's a good looking dog.

What's his registered name? I'm kinda thinking it's gonna come down to Fizzy vs. Rumor, but there could always be an upset... What do you think?
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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptyMon Feb 10, 2014 2:36 pm

I think rumour is the better dog...just my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptyMon Feb 10, 2014 2:37 pm

for the breed judging you don't get to see their names right?
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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptyMon Feb 10, 2014 2:56 pm

From pictures, I prefer Fizzy, but I haven't seen rumor in person. I just prefer Fizzy's proportions, I like his length of loin and leg. To me Rumor looks like he has shorter legs, although Rumor is more angled. I like Fizzy's croup, chest and head better too. I'd like to see them in the ring next to each other though. Maybe I'll have to take a long lunch tomorrow and go see them.
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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptyMon Feb 10, 2014 3:23 pm

Wow, Irish Wolfhounds are so awesome looking. Ring 7 now.

They look like the The Neverending Story dragon dog.
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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptyMon Feb 10, 2014 3:55 pm

Just came across this.  Here are all the Husky entries

Westminster Entries
SIBERIAN HUSKY
Judge: Ms. Sandra Pretari Hickson
Day: February 11, 2014
Time: 1:00
Ring: 11

Best of Breed Competition

6 Ch Taymyr's Firestorm
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Dog
AKC: WS 29424502
Date of Birth: February 06, 2009
Breeder: Carol Benway
Sire: Ch North Node's Cool Business
Dam: Ch Taymyr's Promises Promises CDX RN OA OAJ
Owner: Carol Benway

8 GCH Poli's Tempo Principale
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Dog
AKC: WS 37122903
Date of Birth: January 17, 2011
Breeder: B Richardson & M Falconer & F & M Polimeni
Sire: GCH Poli's Forgetaboutit
Dam: Ch Nando's-Mylas On A Winters Eve
Owner: Mark Pesche & Christine Pesche

9 Ch Whispering Pines Lady Justice Of Evenstar CGC
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Bitch
AKC: WS 33721302
Date of Birth: March 01, 2010
Breeder: Darleen Plourde & Jessica Plourde & Colin Brownlee
Sire: GCH Tovik's Pretty Fly For A White Guy
Dam: Ch Whisperin' Pines The Skys The Limit RN
Owner: Michelle L O'Brien & Darleen Plourde & Jessica Plourde

10 GCH Tackora's Cookie Cutter
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Dog
AKC: WS 34267703
Date of Birth: April 01, 2010
Breeder: P Benincasa & D Studwell
Sire: GCH Innisfree's Stock Option
Dam: Ch Tackora's Cookies & Cream
Owner: Debbie Studwell & Pat Benincasa

11 GCH Myla 'N Poli's Winter Rose
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Bitch
AKC: WS 37122902
Date of Birth: January 17, 2011
Breeder: Brenda Richardson & M Falconer & F & M Polimeni
Sire: GCH Poli's ForgetAboutit
Dam: Ch Nando's-Mylas On A Winters Eve
Owner: Marie Falconer & Frank & Mickie Polimeni & Thomas & Roberta C Davies

12 GCH Affinitys Perfect Patriot
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Dog
AKC: WS 23876202
Date of Birth: October 14, 2007
Breeder: Lisa Green & E Dermartino & D Spendale
Sire: Ch Serenity Democratic Veto
Dam: Ch Trillum Blue Affinity Of Luv
Owner: Chris Porter & Tammy Porter

14 Ch Innisfree Chuck A Luck
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Dog
AKC: WS 25018603
Date of Birth: November 05, 2007
Breeder: Innisfree Kennels & Anne & Brian Palmer
Sire: Ch Highlander's Go For Broke
Dam: Ch Innisfree Judy Kay
Owner: Innisfree Kennels & Anita Riley

15 GCH Snocrest's Leone Di Oro
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Dog
AKC: WS 23754407
Date of Birth: October 15, 2007
Breeder: Shira Lee Barkon & Mark A Shveima
Sire: Ch Huskavarna's Medaglio D'Oro
Dam: Ch Coventry's Lioness Legacy O'Snocrest
Owner: Shira Lee Barkon & Mark A Shveima

16 Ch Dynasty's Husky Lucky Strike
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Dog
AKC: WS 40016301
Date of Birth: November 11, 2009
Breeder: Tang Hsu-Wen
Sire: Ch Krinnka's Shadow Of Chrisdon
Dam: Ch Karnovanda's Ebony Tale
Owner: Ron Tang

17 GCH Ashka's Northern Lights Ablaze
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Bitch
AKC: WS 30489008
Date of Birth: April 29, 2009
Breeder: Katherine E Eveland & Todd R Eveland
Sire: Ch Ashka's Kaught In A Jam
Dam: Ch Myla's Ashka Starburst
Owner: Ashley Banks

18 GCH Tiji's Fire On The Moon
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Dog
AKC: WS 38843307
Date of Birth: August 24, 2011
Breeder: James Harbert & Nichole Harbert
Sire: GCH Pvt Stk's Fire In The Sky
Dam: GCH Shadetree-Tiji Spun Silver
Owner: Wasan Kanchitsirikul

20 GCH Diamondt's Sharp Dressed Man
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Dog
AKC: WS 35532801
Date of Birth: October 08, 2010
Breeder: Shawna Wells & James Lerby & Tyler Wells
Sire: Ch Diamondt's Over The Moon
Dam: Diamondt's Dirty Deeds
Owner: Shawna Wells & James Lerby & Tyler Wells

21 GCH Kiowa's Mariah's Moon Dancer
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Bitch
AKC: WS 31017701
Date of Birth: May 26, 2009
Breeder: Carolyn Cataldo & William Freitas
Sire: GCH Noatak's Party Of One
Dam: Ch Teeco's Kaya
Owner: Carolyn Cataldo

22 GCH Mileka's Belle Starr
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Bitch
AKC: WS 23636701
Date of Birth: October 09, 2007
Breeder: Sally O'Connell
Sire: Ch Rockland's Cracker Jax
Dam: Ch Mileka's Silver Bullet
Owner: Sally O'Connell

23 Ch Highlander's Rumour Has It
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Dog
AKC: WS 40670304
Date of Birth: March 08, 2012
Breeder: Anne R Palmer & Brian Palmer
Sire: GCH Kayenta's Wildestar North Wind
Dam: GCH Highlander's Diamonds R'Furever
Owner: Marc Ralsky & Correen F Pacht

24 GCH Topaz Bad Action
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Dog
AKC: WS 29136201
Date of Birth: January 27, 2009
Breeder: Cheryl French
Sire: Ch Topaz Back In The Saddle
Dam: Ch Topaz Unleashed
Owner: Liu Xi


25 GCH Snowmist's Quicksilver Speigas
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Dog
AKC: WS 31684402
Date of Birth: March 20, 2009
Breeder: Kim Leblanc
Sire: Ch Coventry's Peace Negotiator
Dam: Ch Davik's Snowmist Ice Fox
Owner: Laura Baryte & Hiroyo Shimizu


26 GCH Ziemabora's Strut Your Stuff
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Dog
AKC: WS 34152505
Date of Birth: May 05, 2010
Breeder: Karen Webber
Sire: Ziemaboras Yippee Ki-yay
Dam: Kabu's Watch Out For That Tree
Owner: Bonnie Schaeffel


27 GCH Paragon's You Had Me At Merlot
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Dog
AKC: WS 35786801
Date of Birth: July 15, 2010
Breeder: Terri Erickson
Sire: GCH Kontoki's Isaiah Little Prayer For You
Dam: GCH Paragon's Red Red Wine
Owner: Terri Erickson & Lori Wilson & Caleb Campbell

American-Bred Dogs


5 Innisfree Vagabond Spirit At Wannahike
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Dog
AKC: WS 32754901
Date of Birth: November 26, 2009
Breeder: Kathleen Kanzler
Sire: Ch Skrimshaw's Rebel Yell
Dam: Innisfree Black Rose
Owner: Deborah L Kreider


19 Tiji's Get Your Smooth On
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Dog
AKC: WS 43238703
Date of Birth: February 17, 2013
Breeder: James & Nichole Harbert
Sire: Nanook's Stuck On You O'Pvt Stk
Dam: GCH Shadetree-Tiji Spun Silver
Owner: Liane Tofani & James & Tina & Nichole Harbert

American-Bred Bitches


7 Cedarwood's Cool Summer Rayn
Breed: Siberian Husky
Sex: Bitch
AKC: WS 41574204
Date of Birth: July 07, 2012
Breeder: Rita Montgomery
Sire: Majestique's Special Ops
Dam: Ch Casey's Isabella For Abba's Glory
Owner: Rita Montgomery & Deb Fischer
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Hey, look at that, one of them has Nando in the pedigree. Very Happy
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I noticed that too, twice actually Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat   2014 Westminster Dog Show Chat EmptyMon Feb 10, 2014 4:04 pm

So I've always wondered this about dog shows.  Once the Best In Show comes around, we have 7 Champions, perhaps all Grand Champions, who represent their breed (and group) nearly perfectly, or at least more perfectly than the rest of their breed present at the show as judged by the judge.

So what other criteria are used to pick a winner of BIS?  Surely at this point, conformation to the breed standard is kind of a moot point, no?  So what distinguishes a BIS Champion from the other 6 Champions?


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From my understanding, they are still being judged against the breed standard. There is no perfect dog in any standard, so in a BIS, the winner is whoever is closest to their breed standard. In dog shows, the breed standard is never a moot point, it's the only point (technically, although I think politics play a role too).
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But so does performance, yeah? Personality of the dog? Their energy or their swagger that day. If the nearly perfect Beagle has more spunk that day than the nearly perfect Pug, then the nearly perfect Beagle wins, right?

It just seems that at the point of BIS at Westminster, it would be nearly impossible for a person to judge 7 nearly perfect dogs to 7 completely different standards in any sort of quatifiable way.

How do the politics come in? Do the judges know who the dogs are and where they come from?
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Well, I don't know much about the politics, since I haven't really been in the show world for real, so that's hearsay, but yeah, some people know the judges or some judges know the dogs/owners/handlers. I would hope that factors in less in a show like this, but I'm not sure.

I think whether performance matters or not, depends on the judge. I think some appreciate swagger, some don't care as long as their aren't any behavioral issues (aggression, fear, etc.).

Ideally every dog show results in a judge dealing with 7 nearly perfect dogs, Westminster is just a bigger stage that attracts the most well known dogs, but that doesn't mean that there aren't nearly perfect dogs at smaller shows. In fact, the road to Westminster and big shows is through smaller shows.

I know it's hard to imagine, but the judges do really think the dog they pick is most perfectly in line with it's breed standard. More so than the others.
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I reckon swagger might come into play if the breed standard specifically calls for it. Like the Husky specification of their gait.
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