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PostSubject: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Mon May 12, 2014 4:12 pm

So as you guys may know we have been dealing with Mishka's nose issues for a while now. The vet originally thought it was ringworm and while we did an initial treatment it never did heal and since then it has gotten better and worse. After thinking it could be several different things, we managed to schedule a biopsy.

Today he finally had his biopsy and they did the Wood's Lamp test (blacklight) and it was positive. So they're going to let it grow and get a real positive in 3 days.

Now I've never been around or dealt with ringworm and now that everything I'm reading says to use a bleach solution on everything and either wash everything on hot or throw it away. :/ With it having been so long I'm not sure if that will even still do any good.


Here's some pictures from today of him after his little surgery.









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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Mon May 12, 2014 4:23 pm

Bless you Mishka, hope you get well soon.  
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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Mon May 12, 2014 5:11 pm

Ugh poor Mishka, hopefully he gets better soon and that sucks about all of the cleaning! I would just do one room at a time everything at his level and start that way just so your safe.

I don't know much around Ringworms, but do they have any idea where he could of picked it up?
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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Mon May 12, 2014 5:23 pm

It could be from anywhere. It's a fungal infection and the spores can be in dirt or bugs or something. So I really have no idea!

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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Mon May 12, 2014 5:53 pm

Considering the things that were possible, this is good news. Ringworm is treatable, pain in the ass to eradicate, but treatable.

Poor baby Mishka - does not look happy in that cone Sad 
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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Mon May 12, 2014 6:19 pm

While I was away, the boyfriend actually got ringworm (no idea how or where he got it), and he didn't know for weeks after the initial "bump" on his chest what it was. None if the dogs ever got it and I know 100% he didn't bleach or go crazy cleaning. He had it for almost a month I think.

I hope you guys get this figured out so poor Mishka can get back to normal!
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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Mon May 12, 2014 9:48 pm

@amymeme wrote:
Considering the things that were possible, this is good news. Ringworm is treatable, pain in the ass to eradicate, but treatable.

Poor baby Mishka - does not look happy in that cone Sad 
Oh I am so very glad it's something that is treatable compared to what it could be.

He absolutely HATES the cone, no matter what kind it is. It like paralyzes him.


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While I was away, the boyfriend actually got ringworm (no idea how or where he got it), and he didn't know for weeks after the initial "bump" on his chest what it was. None if the dogs ever got it and I know 100% he didn't bleach or go crazy cleaning. He had it for almost a month I think.

I hope you guys get this figured out so poor Mishka can get back to normal!

Ringworm is super contagious apparently. There's no telling where he could have picked it up at. I read that ACV can help so I'm going to spray everything with that to see if it helps. I can't sit here and bleach my house.

I really hope so too! This has been going on for so long now I'm ready for him to be back to normal as well. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Tue May 13, 2014 2:39 am

He's been to dog parks and such since this started, right?? Have any of your friends or other dog park goers said anything about their dogs getting ringworm??? I've heard it's really contagious too, but I thought it was strange non of the dogs developed ringworm. Not saying you shouldn't be cautious, but I guess I'm surprised neither of you have gotten yet?

I wonder if maybe its more contagious human to human?? I know during wrestling season one year in high school we had a suuuper bad breakout and they dysenfected the whole wrestling room and we washed the mats with this super crazy mixture that we had to wear gloves and those medical face mask things.

Or maybe we got lucky LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Tue May 13, 2014 9:04 am

Yeah he has been. I definitely won't be taking him now for a while. Probably not my best judgement call but being an H2M2 admin too makes it hard to NOT go to the dog park. Plus he always has such a great time. :/ Also from what I've read, dogs and cats can be carriers and not show any signs of it.

With this having gone on for close to 2 months now I'm surprised I haven't developed any signs of it. I just want my poor pup to be back to normal again. Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Tue May 13, 2014 9:23 am

I had ringworm in highschool. Im 90% sure i got it from my lifting class. Nothing to serious. Just annoying. He had it on a really annoying spot, im sure it sucks for him. I just had it on my shoulder. Make sure you wash your hands really well if you touch it.
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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Wed May 14, 2014 1:40 pm

Results form the biopsy are back. It is NOT ringworm. So we are sending the culture off to test for lupus and/or zinc deficiency. We are going to start him on an antifungal in the meantime in case the surface of the skin is infected. Ugh so frustrating!

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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Wed May 14, 2014 1:45 pm

That's crazy Ashleigh. Hop that you can get some definitive answers!
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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Mon May 19, 2014 4:45 pm

So it seems like this is never ending. Lol.

Original results (after the alotted time) were negative for ringworm. The next day my vet tech friend said it became positive for ringworm. So we went with that. I am currently giving him antifungal oral meds and I have some liquid that I tried spraying on his nose that is just not working (he won't let me).

Today my vet tech friend texted me to say that the lab biopsy results came back negative for any sort of immune disease (yay) but that it could be a hypersensitivity to an allergen (contact, flea, or food) and ALSO said it could be a hypersensitivity to staphylococcus. :/

SO I may have to treat it for that because while we're on day 3 of the medicine, I can't tell if it's getting any better.

Oh man you guys, this dog.

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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Mon May 19, 2014 4:51 pm

@simplify wrote:
So it seems like this is never ending. Lol.

Original results (after the alotted time) were negative for ringworm. The next day my vet tech friend said it became positive for ringworm. So we went with that. I am currently giving him antifungal oral meds and I have some liquid that I tried spraying on his nose that is just not working (he won't let me).

Today my vet tech friend texted me to say that the lab biopsy results came back negative for any sort of immune disease (yay) but that it could be a hypersensitivity to an allergen (contact, flea, or food) and ALSO said it could be a hypersensitivity to staphylococcus. :/

Aggravating. This is why hubby calls it the ART of medicine...guess its the same for veterinary medicine.
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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Mon May 19, 2014 5:00 pm

The lab made notes saying that autoimmune disease in a dog his age (young) is rare.

And yeah, it's all a guessing game when you have symptoms that are common for a lot of different issues. So we might do another round of cephalexin to treat it if it's bacterial. Sigh.

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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Mon May 19, 2014 5:05 pm

Hm. Could you put the cone on, sneak up from behind, grab him, and spray his nose? Btw, has the vet had you try benedryl?
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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Mon May 19, 2014 5:06 pm

Or get him when he's sleeping?
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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Mon May 19, 2014 5:10 pm

Oh poor Mishka. I hope everything gets better soon for your little buddy. Good news it wasn't serious! That would break my heart </3
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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Mon May 19, 2014 5:11 pm

I have some benedryl I just haven't tried giving it to him. I actually still have some sedatives from his neuter...

I tried the cone thing but he ran into his crate and was still being a butthead about it. I need to try again tonight. He just seriously hates any sort of topical medicine. He's fine taking pills! Just gobbles them down. -_-

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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Mon May 19, 2014 5:13 pm

Ha ha. Brat! I was thinking benedryl to reduce the itching and inflammation, not as a sedative. FYI - it doesn't always have a sedating effect. It just wound Diz up.
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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Mon May 19, 2014 7:09 pm

Here is an update on what his nose is looking like these days.






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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Mon May 19, 2014 7:45 pm

Well it's looking a little better!! Sorry you and Mishka are having to go through with all this, but it will get better soon!  Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Tue May 20, 2014 12:37 pm

Ahh Poor Mishka it does look a little better. Paws still crossed and hoping every day is better.

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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Sat May 24, 2014 12:05 pm

Pictures from May 22! Looking way better. Going to the vet in a few minutes to get a verdict on the next step!




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PostSubject: Re: Not Ringworm! - UPDATE! 9/18/15   Sat May 24, 2014 12:25 pm

Wow that looks way better, healing nicely... Hope the vet has some good news.
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