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PostSubject: What type is she?   What type is she? EmptySat May 17, 2014 1:16 pm

Not sure if this is in the right section but I was wondering if you can tell what type of husky the parents of our pup are?

*Sorry, our puppy doesn't really have a name yet.  We can't seem to agree on one we like.   Rolling Eyes  She may end up keeping the name that was given to her by her 5 yrs old human: TnT  (yes, they are AC/DC fans)   Laughing 

The father.  He is a beautiful, black coat, funny, people person, 110 lbs of awesomeness.  Because of his size, I thought malamute but he does have a blue spec in one eye which would suggest some siberian?

The mum is a petite, grey coat, quiet & lovely 45 lbs girl.  Sibe & coyote maybe?

Here they are together:

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I don't have a nice photo of the dad, only what the owner had posted.  Here's a close up of his head, he was goofing off in the snow.
You can see his left eye (so our right), it has the blue spec at the bottom.
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Here's a nice shot of mum:
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Feeding her pups, I think 2 - 3 weeks ago?
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PostSubject: Re: What type is she?   What type is she? EmptySat May 17, 2014 1:36 pm

Malamutes sometimes have blue eyes, but it's considered a flaw in their breed standard, and considered very rare. 110 lbs is big for a Mal, much less a Sibe or Sibe X. Either way, they are all great looking dogs!
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PostSubject: Re: What type is she?   What type is she? EmptySat May 17, 2014 7:16 pm

I didn't think 110 was too big for a Husky, but I do not claim to know much about the breed standard, I don't show or bread just enjoy the zaniness. Every day something new can be learned. Both Sire and Dam are very attractive, I would think your puppy will too. Enjoy.
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PostSubject: Re: What type is she?   What type is she? EmptySat May 17, 2014 7:55 pm

Thanks guys Smile

I can't remember if the owners told us if they were purebreds (it's all kind of a blur now as I couldn't believe how well behaved & friendly the dogs were as a pack with us. And so soft... and how I, who is allergic to dogs, had no reaction whatsoever for the first time in my life). I do remember that they said that we wouldn't be getting papers. Which is fine with me as, for right now, that's not as important to me as getting a pup that has good parents (temperament mainly).

They got the father from a local rescue & I think the mum too & they were told she was a Siberian. Why the rescues didn't spay & neuter them, I don't know. Can't remember how it all came about.
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PostSubject: Re: What type is she?   What type is she? EmptySat May 17, 2014 8:27 pm

@Hughie wrote:
I didn't think 110 was too big for a Husky, but I do not claim to know much about the breed standard, I don't show or bread just enjoy the zaniness.  Every day something new can be learned.  Both Sire and Dam are very attractive, I would think your puppy will too.  Enjoy.

Here's the AKC Siberian Husky breed standard:

Size, Proportion, Substance
Height--Dogs, 21 to 23½ inches at the withers. Bitches, 20 to 22 inches at the withers. Weight--Dogs, 45 to 60 pounds. Bitches, 35 to 50 pounds. Weight is in proportion to height. The measurements mentioned above represent the extreme height and weight limits with no preference given to either extreme. Any appearance of excessive bone or weight should be penalized. In profile, the length of the body from the point of the shoulder to the rear point of the croup is slightly longer than the height of the body from the ground to the top of the withers. Disqualification--Dogs over 23½ inches and bitches over 22 inches.


My Paw Paw (dog in my signature pic below) is bigger for a Sibe, and he gets mistaken for a Mal all the time. I always point out the ice blue eyes (as the first sign that gives it away) and the fact that he's 23.5" and 60 lbs, so right at the maximum end of the standard, but still within standard. I tell the people that Mals are bigger than Sibes, sometimes twice their size, depending on how small the Sibe is. Haha! And I am like you, I don't show or breed. I just work him as my lead dog and one of my strongest pullers on my dog team.
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PostSubject: Re: What type is she?   What type is she? EmptySat May 17, 2014 10:25 pm

As Counter put, 110 pounds is WAY too big for a Siberian Husky. That's over sized for even an Alaskan Malamute, which as we all know is much, much larger then our Sibes. Siberians are medium size dogs, not large to extra large dogs. A 110 pound Siberian Husky could not function in harness, which then defeats the purpose of being a Siberian.
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PostSubject: Re: What type is she?   What type is she? EmptySun May 18, 2014 3:36 am

@LMS wrote:

The mum is a petite, grey coat, quiet & lovely 45 lbs girl.  Sibe & coyote maybe?


The mom looks like a pure Sibe to me, most likely no coyote. You'd notice it in her behaviour, though, and you said that both parents were great. Here's a pretty good informational piece about coydogs along with example images.  http://wolfdogproject.com/coydogs.html

In any case, as a family pet it shouldn't make a difference whether or not your pup's dad has Mal or something else in him. I'm sure she will be a great addition.
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PostSubject: Re: What type is she?   What type is she? EmptySun May 18, 2014 7:41 am

I think if it were a coyote/ dog mix, she would be infertile. I agree that 110 is WAY to big for a male although, he could be full husky. Irresponsible people select extra large dogs and then continue breeding them to make each subsequent generation bigger. Also, breeding two dogs that are such drastically different weights, especially a large male to a smaller female is risky to the mom. I suggest you take a hard look at this breeder before you take a puppy from them. Have the parents been health tested? This does not just mean a normal vet exam, there are specific tests that screen for congenital problems, like hip dysplasia.
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PostSubject: Re: What type is she?   What type is she? EmptySun May 18, 2014 7:50 am

Also if they are saying they got the dogs from a rescue but then breeding them, well something doesn't add up there. I would scrutinize them a little more thoroughly before you buy the puppy. I don't mean to be rude or pushy and I'm definitely not anti breeder, I bought my puppy from a breeder. I've just seen so many issues coming up in puppies from not so great breeders.
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PostSubject: Re: What type is she?   What type is she? EmptySun May 18, 2014 10:44 am

They didn't breed them intentionally.  Nor did they wish to breed.  They weren't from the same rescue.  The male was from a rescue farm, the female was rescued from a backyard breeder (so not through a rescue group.  He saw she was in a hard place & needed to be taken out of there asap) Once the pups gone, she will be getting spayed.

He was told she was 100% sibe, but he'd never seen one so delicate (?), & TBH, never had we, so was only wondering if coyote was in there. But then again on the sizing front, I'd also never seen a purebred German Shepherd the size of a giant St-Bernard & yet I knew a breeder who had one come up in one of his litters (he was also neutered to prevent any breeding & he kept him even though many people wanted to purchase him & breed for the size)
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PostSubject: Re: What type is she?   What type is she? EmptySun May 18, 2014 11:20 am

Forgot to add: because of the situation that happened, the owners are not selling the pups; they looked for good homes for the the pups & they are coming with a copy of a detailed first vet visit & shots paper.  We all agreed we would divide the invoice amongst us.  (They also use the same vet centre that I do)
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PostSubject: Re: What type is she?   What type is she? EmptySun May 18, 2014 9:49 pm

Hi & Welcome  wave 

I can't really offer any advice on what "type" the parents are but I did want to offer some advice on your pup. If you haven't considered it already please please get pet insurance! It sounds like this little girl has a definite home with you, which while that is wonderful for both you and her I definitely would be wary since she comes from non health tested parents. Please don't take this as me saying that there is something wrong with your pup because I'm not saying that at all I just think it would be better to err on the side of caution. Some hereditary diseases are incredibly expensive to deal with (and some insurances will not cover them so choose wisely!) and since you don't know of the parents are carriers I just think it would be smart Smile

Enjoy your new baby girl and all the tenacity and expression she will bring to your home!
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PostSubject: Re: What type is she?   What type is she? EmptyMon May 19, 2014 10:15 am

Thank you GeorginaMay.  Though never had some on the pets (only the horses) as it's just now starting to be more popular over here, I've started wondering if I should get pet insurance.  Before it was too expensive to get insurance compared to the cost of vet bills, (& I'm lucky that my vet centre who look after my horses' needs, let me pay over time.  I've been with them since they took over another top equine centre's department years ago) but now that the vet rates have been going up & pet insurance more affordable for what they offer, yeah it would make sense to get it.  They're actually now offering it at many rescues/shelters when you adopt a dog or a cat.  I am definitely considering it & have been looking into it.  Smile
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PostSubject: Re: What type is she?   What type is she? EmptyTue May 20, 2014 10:33 am

Received an update email yesterday & the vet visit went really well.  They all got a clean bill of health & the vet was "quite impressed by the pups".  So that was nice to hear.

She also sent me a couple of photos taken yesterday morning.

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