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PostSubject: trying to delete   Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:28 pm

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PostSubject: Re: trying to delete   Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:04 am

Welcome to the forum! There are a lot of good people here and you can definitely get some great information here. Zhukov is my first Husky, and I thought I had done a lot of research before we got him. Boy, oh boy, was I wrong. I have learned a lot here just by going through a lot of the past forum posts. I am far from being an expert by any means, but I will give you my opinions here.

First, thanks for giving us a good background on you and your family, and thank you for not giving up on your pup. So many people get a Husky, realize that they bit off more than they could chew, and give the dog up. Good on you and your family for making the effort.

Now, just for clarification, how long have you had him? How long have you had Donnie? How old is each of them now? Are they both "joint family" pets, or does Donnie "belong" to one of the other family members?

Now, EVERYONE needs to be on the same page with the training. Any inconsistency defeats the training process (at least with my pup).

CRATE TRAIN! I am a big softee, and it breaks my heart to hear Zhukov cry, howl, whine, talk, and beg to be let out of his crate. However, I really believe that crate training is a huge benefit for the dog. We got Zhukov at 8 weeks, started the crate training, but I stopped it because he destroyed his crate, and I could not stand the sound of him when he was in it. Big mistake. We restarted it (it was worse the second time around) and tried to keep him on a schedule for it. He is 5 months old now, so he can make it through the night without peeing in the crate, so he goes in at 10:30pm and comes out at 0630am. He also goes in for a bit in the afternoon around 1:00pm for about 1/2 hour. Some nights he goes in just fine, other nights he cries like the boogey man is locked in the crate with him. Consistency is the key.

As far as exercise, try to include both dogs as much as possible in your exercise routine. Walk them together, play with them together, take them for rides together. Colby (my Mini-Schnauzer) has been with us for 5 years, and was our only dog for that period. When Zhukov came into the mix, I noticed that Colby got very protective/possessive with his toys and me. I started taking both of them on walks together, which gets interesting when you have a Husky pulling and a little dog struggling to keep up. I found that a front clip chest harness for Zhukov REALLY helped stop his pulling so hard on the leash. Now they are inseparable.

I don't understand the question "How often should I feed him to reduce spoiled behavior?". I feed Zhukov 1 1/2 cup of kibble two times a day. I try to keep it on a schedule for him. He is a gobbler, so I had to get him a "puzzle" bowl to slow him down. I also have to feed the two dogs separate, otherwise, Zhukov will finish off his food and then take Colby's food.

For the bad habits you listed, train, train, train. Again, everyone in the house has to be on the same page. Huskies are smart. Like Werner Von Braun smart. Seriously. If they had thumbs, they would be building rockets, if for no other reason, than to escape. Train him on the "Stop", "Sit", "Place", "Drop it", "Leave it" commands. They want to learn.

I have no idea about the aggression/biting problem...

Anyway, climbing down off my soapbox. My last piece of advice though.... Take lots of pics. They grow up so dang fast and you will love to be able to go back in a couple of months and look at all the changes. Hopes this helps.
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PostSubject: Re: trying to delete   Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:15 am

@Mark Grubbs a very excellent response, I too have a few questions for Gino but I'll wait til I see what your responses are.

Gino, you've reached the age (or rather the pup has) where getting a handle on the biting. All of you, as Mark says, are going to have to be on the same page to lick this before it becomes a major problem.
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PostSubject: Re: trying to delete   Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:17 am

Welcome to the forum fellow Toronto friend! Mark gave a great response I would also like to know to what extent is Leo trained? Sit, down, recall ect? That will help a lot of the users here answer your questions. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: trying to delete   Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:42 am

Thank you from all of you! I really appreciate the warm welcome!
@Mark Grubbs Thank you so much for your positive filled message! Your husky is beautiful, I love the mask of your husky! I know it's going to be a lot of work and he's actually bitten me and my siblings quite a few times, I excuse him from his rough biting today and yesterday because we just had him neutered so he's probably in a lot of pain. But honestly you have no idea how much I really appreciate your message. Donnie is just 1 month apart from Leo, we actually got him for Leo to have a good companion because the breeder we had gotten him from didn't associate the pups together too well (and because when my mom saw a Shiba on TV she fell in love) Donnie is well-mannered, he doesn't bite, he listens quite well and he's not as stubborn as Leo. We got him from a breeder who has been breeding Shiba's for 20 years. I'm going to start taking them out together more frequently.

@aljones Yeah I figured that if I don't correct this behavior now, then Leo is going to end up attacking people and potentially hurting weaker victims like my mom and dad.. he is really loving though, like my dad will be like "I love you, I love you, I love you!" and Leo will run up jump on him and start licking him.

@CoraTheHusky hello fellow Toronto friend! Cora looks very beautiful and I really like the name. Maybe we can meet up sometime for husky play-dates and Cora can show Leo the ropes!

As for more information on Leo,
Leo is actually pretty good with training (at least with treats) he sits when I want to discipline him too, but I have to get in front of him to do that, he's able to stay even when I have him on one of those flexi-leashes, I'll tell him to stay extend the leash quite far and he will stay put until I say "okay, come" or "let's go!". He's able to do tricks like "speak" and jump. I would say he's decent at picking things up.

For crate training, Leo is pretty good with sleeping in his crate. He actually goes in by himself to sleep because he figures that's the only quiet place he can get. It's just when we put him in there during the day that he isn't so happy about. I think that can be changed though with light progress and desensitizing the crate from negative to a positive place by reinforcing food and treats from within the crate. Correct me if I'm wrong, though..

As for biting/aggression I was thinking of using a shock-collar, nothing too serious, but I want to let him know that biting and aggression is a big no! Alongside the light shock, I would associate a no! and having him ignored. I want to get rid of this behavior completely, but I want to address whatever may be bothering him as well. What do you guys think about that?

For exercise, since I don't have as much free time I would take him out at this park near my house and play fetch or run around with him, but it does have quite a bit of geese poo.. and Leo sometimes throws that in his mouth. What should I do in that scenario? What are some games you can play with your dogs at home that'll usually tire him out? I also have a treadmill, I want to incorporate that as his exercise for days that we are not able to go outside. How should I go about approaching that?

One thing that everyone has told me is that my family has to be on the same page and trust me I'm going to try my best to do this.
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PostSubject: Re: trying to delete   Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:31 am

Once he reaches a year you can start biking with him. Huskies do need structured exercise such as long walks, running, bikejoring, etc. Playing fetch and running around in the yard/park will only do so much. In many cases just meeting their extreme exercise needs will curb a lot of misbehavior. Excess energy is often times displayed in over excitement, chewing, and not listening. When it comes to picking up bird poop, you will want to teach drop it and leave it. These commands will help you get toys away from him also. With the treadmill, start now getting him used to the sound. Have him stand on it while you feed him to get him used to being near it. Until pups are a year though any kind of hard exercise that they can't just stop when they want to can cause damage to growing joints, so the biking and treadmill you should wait until 1 year. With a treadmill when he wants to stop it is harder for him to relay this to you unlike when you run with him yourself.

When it comes to Ecollars, err on the side of caution. They are not to be used for just anything and can do more damage than harm if you don't time the use of them perfectly. Mouthing and chewing at people can be handled without an ecollar. he has a lot of pent up energy and he uses mouthing to try and goad you into playing. Meeting his exercise needs will help this in itself, but you can also help this verbally. When he's biting at you or someone, the person being being mouthed should yelp and turn away from him. Don't let his mouthing get you excited or pushy. If you start pushing him away to get him off you and not biting, you are taking his excitement level a notch or many higher and it becomes a game and he gets what he wants. If he's biting just yelp like a puppy would and then turn away and ignore him for a couple/few minutes. Make it known that biting isn't going to get him what he wants.

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PostSubject: Re: trying to delete   Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:09 pm

All right Gino!  Sounds like you are on the right path already.  That is awesome with the crate training.  I feed Zhukov in his crate and try to do the treat thing, so hopefully that works for you.

I use an E-collar (people associate "shock collar" with torture and an evil way to train dogs) on Zhukov. Be careful with this training technique though.  It really shouldn't be used just as a negative training technique. I actually got mine through the Bootcamp that Zhukov went through, and when he sees the collar, he knows that it is training time and he actually gets excited about it.  Almost like when he sees the leash and knows that we are going for a walk. It is "The Boss" e-collar and is very easy to use and has a very wide range of levels.  Make sure you get the larger prongs.  They have to reach through all that Husky fur!

With the goose poop, I read that as with most fecal material, goose poop has Salmonella and E coli present. So, a small amount of these bacteria might be ingested. Luckily, most of them would get destroyed in your dog's stomach and intestinal tract.  However, make sure you don't let them roll in it and obviously, you don't want them eating that anyway.

Exercise...  ahh the fun times!  The rule of thumb seems to be 5 minutes of leash walking per month of age.  For example, Zhukov is 5 months old, so we usually take a 25-30 minute walk each day.  As far as tiring him out, he will not fetch.  At all.  I throw the ball and he might run after it, but he does not pick it up.  Seems like he is thinking "Well, if he threw it away, it must not be anything good."  However, he will chase Colby all day long, so I throw the ball for Colby and Zhukov will chase him all around the park.  (The park is a fenced dog park)  At night we all have a "wrestle" time, but that is probably a bad idea with Leo if he is biting.

Now for the treadmill.  I was actually looking at that, and my buddy who has a Husky uses one with his dog.  I reached out to him and he said that it was very easy to train his Husky to use the treadmill and that he uses that at night to wear down his dog.  Treadmill Dog Training  He sent me this video and said that this was how he got his Husky on the treadmill.

Like I said though, it really sounds like you are on the right path.  You already have a good base started and are asking all the right questions.  I was much more disjointed and all over the place, however there are a lot of people on this forum and they are all willing to help out.  Remember, the only dumb question is the one you don't ask.
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PostSubject: Re: trying to delete   Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:46 pm

OK......e-collars, should not EVER be used to train a dog at all, as in the case of myself and Mark, we use it as a reinforcement tool to a command they already know. I would seriously not use an e-collar to train not to bite, this will not be good. Please follow this advice, you could end up with a dog that reacts negatively at everything.

You got your pup too young, I did as well. I can only assure you that getting rid of pent up mental and physical energy is the only way to solve the issue. Miya never responded to yelping or walking away, slightly better at time outs. Of course start with the yelping and walking away, then on to time outs first and see if he responds. However, if he is at all like my Miya, he might not respond to any of that as well.

What will work and this has to be controlled by one person, you, have the other members in the family continue with yelping, walking away, time outs. have yourself geared up with old clothes and if you don't like being bit, then gloves. Have a tug toy, get on the ground and be a dog. It is a mental and physical exercise that you will be interacting with Leo. You must start and stop all games, not Leo. Play tugs, when Leo drops it, in order to continue he must do a command, like sit, if he does his reward is the continuation of the game, he drops again, tell him to leave it, continue with game. Go through all commands. I ensure you doing this once a day, will curb his need to mouth you. The other 2 things is to have everyone in the family participate at hand feeding, sit at his level, talk in a calm voice, palm open with a couple of pieces of kibble, when he is sitting and calm tell him to take, if he is gentle say good boy yes. When going outside have him sit and wait, coming back inside the same. You must promote calmness at all times, give firm calm voice commands, when he is successful praise in a happy yet calm manner. I can elaborate on any of these things. But the key is calmness, and heavy structure in everything you do.
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