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cmanding
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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:04 pm

Well, we ate a late lunch today, and I forgot to pull a wing out of the freezer this morning, so it'll be tomorrow that we try a chicken wing (with pan juices from a plain seared steak to intice her)...

Stay tuned for tomorrow's update Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:30 pm

Fingers crossed, although those steak juices should be irresistible. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:22 pm

Well, I seared some steaks and used the pan juices to pour over her chicken wing and gave that to her first (before her food). She licked up the steak juices and took the wing out of her bowl and went to her 'spot'. I thought she was going for it because with her dental bones, she'll do a little play dance before she grabs it and eats it, which she did with the wing, but then only licked it. She made a very feeble attempt to gnaw at it then moved away to lay on the hardwood floors. I picked up the wing and put it in her regular food, and she ate around it, then licked it to get the HK off and was done. Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:41 pm

Aww, that stinks. Faith was like that too. I had to practice a little tough love with Faith to get her to eat her first chicken wing. No treats and no other food were offered. She was offered her raw chicken wing 3 times a day for 20 minutes each time. If she didn't eat it then it went back in the fridge until her next feeding time where she'd again be offer the wing and nothing else. She was a stubborn little thing and did not give in until day 3 but she was finally hungry enough that she chowed down on it with gusto. After she ate her raw chicken wing she was rewarded with her Honest Kitchen.

If you really want Ginger to eat it then you might have to go the tough love route. But if it's not something that you really care about one way or the other then you might try a few more times with other variations maybe.

I didn't start my husky off on raw bone-in meat, but rather I started him on boneless raw meat that I hand fed him. Over the years I would hand feed him a variety of boneless raw meat from whatever I was cooking for dinner, so he got accustomed to it that way. I've also fed him the prepared frozen raw meat patties too so he got plenty of exposure to raw meat before I stuck a raw chicken wing in his bowl for the first time. I know Ginger ate the small raw pieces that you hand fed her, but will she eat raw (boneless) meat that you give her? Like if you were cooking and you just set aside a small piece of the raw meat before you cook the rest for yourself, would she eat that?

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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:06 pm

She might eat what I hand her as she's learned that when I'm in the kitchen, I'm getting ready to eat something...and she's learned (which is my fault) that if she sits there long enough with a sweet smile and drool, I'll give her something. So hand feeding her small bits of raw meet whenever I prep a meal might be what I have to do to start Ginger off....just like how you started off your boy. I think that way, hubby will also be more open and at ease about feeding raw.

After our attempt at raw today, hubby said, 'Cook up them wings! There's a game on!' Very Happy

I'm saving them since they're vacuumed packed and they'll last in the freezer for a while Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:53 pm

I didn't read this whole thread- I am way too lazy, haha- but Koda use to be horrible about eating raw. I would have to tear it apart and feed it to him, or throw it and then make him think I was going to get it and eat it myself so he'd snatch it. Sigh. The only thing I didn't have to play around with was little cut up pieces. One day he decided to be a big boy though. Maybe it will just be a time thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:12 pm

I definitely haven't given up yet! Smile
I am going to start slipping her some raw chicken whenever I can so she gets used to it and then slowly build up from there.
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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:48 pm

I'm making an Indian dinner tonight which will have chicken in it so I'll see if she'll take hand fed raw boneless chicken....
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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:51 pm

Sounds like a plan, some dogs just need baby steps more than others. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:34 pm

Well, still a no go...

I was prepping for dinner, and she was, as usual, curious...becaus when I'm in the kitchen, that usual means I'm fixing something to eat and she gets something...

Anyway, I cutting up the chicken breast, and I took a small piece and hand fed it to her. She took it, put it down, pushed it around with her nose and looked up at me and laid down. I picked it up and hand fed it to her again...and we went in circles about 3 times and finally gave up.

I continued to prep dinner and she acted curious again, so I took another piece and hand fed it to her. This time she chewed a little and put it on the floor. The sniffed my hands, licked it (because it still had chicken on it) and that was that.

(Yes, I washed my hands in between! Smile)

Oh well...may be I'll try a rare piece of beef, and then go less and less cooked from there....?
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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:37 pm

cmanding wrote:
Oh well...may be I'll try a rare piece of beef, and then go less and less cooked from there....?


That actually sounds like a good idea, kind of similar the seared chicken idea but started with something a little more cooked. I think it's worth a shot at the very least.

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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:45 am

I gave Ginger 3 small pieces of medium rare steak yesterday early evening, around 4pm, and I would have thought she'd give me a BM before we went to bed, but she didn't. But this morning, half of BM was soft and mucousy Crying or Very sad

The last time she had beef was when we were still going through diarreha and getting her to poop. I remember at one point we gave her ground beef which was a little raw (slightly pink) with rice. It could have been the rice or the beef, but after 2 days of no poop on that diet, she threw it all up.

So, I'm thinking....no-go on beef...

Her holistic vet said her main proteins should be 'cool proteins' such as fish, chicken, turkey and duck vs. 'warm proteins' which would be beef, deer/venison, buffalo/bison, lamb.

So, I think I may just stick with trying to give her some chicken to mix up the protien.

My next attempt will be another chicken wing again, but I'll sear the skin for 15 seconds and see if that helps...
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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:44 pm

I'd stick with your vet's advice for now.

Maybe once Ginger starts eating raw meat then you could try purely raw beef and see how she reacts since the truly raw version is different from the rare/partially cooked version. But of course this won't be anytime soon. Our boy doesn't handle cooked beef well either but he handles raw beef just fine.

Good luck with the chicken wing...round 2. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:13 pm

I figured so on the beef...so for now, beef is out...we'll revisit raw beef later Very Happy

I'm heading to Arizona this weekend...I get to meet Heather and Koda!

But when I get back, I'll try chicken wing round #2...
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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:18 pm

Took one chicken wing out this morning to try this again at lunch...
This time, I'm going to sear the wing for 15 seconds and see if that makes it more enticing...

Stay tuned.....
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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:43 pm

Hope it helps! *fingers crossed* The things we do for our dogs, right? Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:13 pm

Thought this was funny. I asked my mom to get me chicken necks for my girls. She got two packs, so she could give some to her dogs. Her dogs, BTW, have only ever eaten kibble and some table scraps. Anyway, most of her dogs had no clue what to do with the necks! lol. They knew they were cool and guarded them from the other dogs, but didn't know if they should eat them or just lick them or what. One of her dogs quickly buried his and then dug it up and buried it again. lol. Her BC swallowed his whole and one of her american eskimos really liked them and kept trying to steel everyone elses.

My girls liked theirs. Elara is in her, "OMG I'm starving all the time!" phase, so I have to watch out and make sure she doesn't swallow things whole. I swear, she'd eat until she's explode right now. I was so happy when Siku outgrew this phase. Siku is much better about chewing.
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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:35 pm

That is funny!
We're making a little progress!
I'll post a video soon...
I have to clean up first...
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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:44 pm

cmanding wrote:
We're making a little progress!
I'll post a video soon...
I have to clean up first...


OMG, are you implying that she ate at least some of it?! I really do hope so! Get that video up!!! Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Raw for Ginger   Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:04 pm

Sorry for the shaky video...I had to be discreet and take it across the dining room and zoom in.
That's 'her spot' where she eats all her bones or anything 'stick' or bone like.

I seared the wing first for 15 seconds each side in a dry, hot pan first, and let it cool a little.

I put the wing in her bowl at first, she took it and put it on the hardwood floor and licked it, then left it alone. I picked it up and tore off some meat and hand fed it which she ate, then broke the bones apart and gave it to her where she took it and went to 'her spot' in the video.

So we're making slow progress...


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