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 Overbite + Giardia + diaharia (poop pics beware)

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PostSubject: Re: Overbite + Giardia + diaharia (poop pics beware)   Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:23 pm

I'd say do the extraction. I'd think it'd be somewhat painful to leave them and the trimming not work.

Jenn, Kohdi has the rear dew claws as well. He's yet to have any issues but...anything can happen. At this point I wouldn't want to have them removed unless he's having surgery done for something else. My breeder does remove them but on Kohdi, somehow missed it. She's the one that brought it up though when I went to pick him up, not sure if have noticed myself. Even though none of my other huskies had them.

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PostSubject: Re: Overbite + Giardia + diaharia (poop pics beware)   Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:34 pm

Well, thank you for your lovely feedback everyone. I will defiantly get her k9's removed. those are her adults one's therefore she wont be growing new ones Sad Also will check with the doctor if we can get her dewclaws removed, don't want her to trap them in something and hurt herself later on

One last thing, she's only 5 month old & 14kg, what would her expected adult weight be? 25kg or 30 kg as I want to adjust her kibble diet accordingly.

Thanks for all your feedback guys.
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PostSubject: Re: Overbite + Giardia + diaharia (poop pics beware)   Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:00 pm

I don't know if she would go that high. We have this chart and while in pounds there are some dogs that were in your range at that time. I would think somewhere between 20-25kg. I don't think she will go as high as 30kg but hard to say. Each line grows at their own rate. The easiest way to tell is to talk to the breeder and see what the sizes were on past litters if there are any.

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PostSubject: Re: Overbite + Giardia + diaharia (poop pics beware)   Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:45 pm

Too bad I just saw this. Bacchus did get his baby lower-canines removed as well as his baby lower-incisors. In addition to this treatment, I gave him some DIY LIPUS and red-light therapy that focused on the mandibular condyle on both sides as well as having over 10 sessions of K-laser targeting the same area.

I am happy to say that his bite overall corrected itself. He still has a slight overbite, but his lower canines are locked ahead of his upper canines versus in January when they were reversed. He needed no filing down of the canines and will not need anything in the future. The only thing the vet did in Bacchus's follow-up several months later was to remove a tiny sliver of gum tissue on each side of his upper gum-area so his lower canines would clear the upper palate.
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PostSubject: Re: Overbite + Giardia + diaharia (poop pics beware)   Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:11 am

Hey guys.. just to clear it up Bella is almost 6 month old and those Lower K9 are her adult one's the puppy teeth fell out!! The extraction would be for her adult tooth.. her surgery is in about one hour, but I'm a bit worried now that my friend told me to trim them and not extract them as she won't be able to eat well and so on.. is there any clear answer to wether she can eat and live fine if we extract her teeth?

Also another note I wanted to get her spayed, but got advised to wait until she gets her first period as that's recommend any idea about that if it's has any truth??
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PostSubject: Re: Overbite + Giardia + diaharia (poop pics beware)   Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:30 am

Hey guys.. I went ahead with the extraction and removing her dawclaws... I think she's in pain.. they did give me pain killers for her. I had to do it as she had something called locked incisors.. also her lower k9 were puncturing her upper gums and was going to cause damage to her other teeth therefore the doctors suggested not to wait or do trial and error by trimming them (they would make more money by trimming and we need to do it more than once) I feel bad for her..

I wanted to know how am I suppose to fead her the kibble food she use to eat..? Do I crush it into pieces and mix it up until it's very soft so she can eat it? Or what's the best solution so she can recover without hurting her mouth
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PostSubject: Re: Overbite + Giardia + diaharia (poop pics beware)   Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:27 am

I would mix the kibble with some water or broth and let it get soft. You shouldn't need to crush it if you let it soak long enough.

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PostSubject: Re: Overbite + Giardia + diaharia (poop pics beware)   Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:31 am

I was thinking canned until his mouth healed, then I think he should be able to eat normally.

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PostSubject: Re: Overbite + Giardia + diaharia (poop pics beware)   Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:50 pm

My worry is; that if I give her wet food such as TOTW she might to get diaharia because of changing foods.. I dunno if she can change from Orijen kibble to TOTW wet food without getting diahria..

She has 6 stitches in her mouth poor girl.. I dunno crush her kibble with hot water let it soften up!! Or TOTW soft canned food?
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PostSubject: Re: Overbite + Giardia + diaharia (poop pics beware)   Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:18 pm

Ali, I think you can probably expect a round of diarrhea in either case. Effectively she's been injured and it's up to you to help her heal. I wouldn't expect her to eat normally - quantity - for a few days anyway. Giving her something that softer will help encourage her to eat but I'd not expect her to do much more than nibble until her mouth heals.

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PostSubject: Re: Overbite + Giardia + diaharia (poop pics beware)   Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:04 pm

Well problem one solved.. we put hot water on her kibble and it became very moist and soft after they put it in the mixer and it became a bit sticky.. it was soft but chewey... not sure if she's be fine eating chewy food? If not il just switch to canned food.

Now regarding her elezaberh collar it is suppose to bother her so much? She was crying a lot can I possible get her a e color they isn't made out of plastic? Maybe sponge or something?

Can I possibly give her tramadol instead of her pain killer?

They gave me stonorgyl and petcam (meloxicam oral suspsion) both once a day in the morning.
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PostSubject: Re: Overbite + Giardia + diaharia (poop pics beware)   Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:23 pm

I would give her what the vet prescribed for pain, it is designed to calm her as well as take the edge off the pain she is experiencing. The kibble soaked in water should be fine, I actually do that everyday for my gsd, and she has no problems, has her teeth etc, but I feel it is healthier for a dog, so you may find that you will continue to soak in water after her mouth heals, gives her added fluids, which in the excess heat of where you live and where I live (west Texas) it is an added benefit.

Here is a do it yourself e collar using a towel, should be much easier on her. https://www.ngap.org/towel-collar-y540.html
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PostSubject: Re: Overbite + Giardia + diaharia (poop pics beware)   Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:41 pm

Maybe I didn't say it explicitly, but I think you can expect her to be uncomfortable as the wounds in her mouth heal.  I'm guessing that the e-collar was used to prevent her from opening the wounds by chewing on something she shouldn't - but as I said, that's a guess.  There are different types of e-collars, but for the relatively short length of time you'll be using it - a week to 10 days probably - I doubt you can get an effective substitute in time to really help.  

As long as she's eating anything, I wouldn't be overly concerned about what she eats - no matter what it is, it's going to be uncomfortable for her.  

Medication - two I recognize and one I don't (nor does Google - stonorgyl?) most vets know what can be exchanged and what the correct dosage should be - with most meds, I think that if you dose her enough to stop the pain, you're going to have a very sleepy dog.  And that might not be a really bad thing as she heals.  In any case, I wouldn't substitute any meds without talking to your vet.
Again, most vets are also conscious of the cost of veterinary medicine -vs- the equivalent human medicine (most human medicines are less expensive) and will assist you in choosing a cost effective pain regimen.

I'm stressing this - because of the oral surgery, she's going to be uncomfortable.  You can manage that discomfort to a degree by giving her soft food and pain medicine - but she will be uncomfortable.  Regrettably, like human surgery, you do what you can ... the hard part is that she doesn't "understand" why she's hurting and you're just going to have to do what you can and accept that she'll be uncomfortable for a while.

Thanks Renee ....

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