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PostSubject: Long Line when HIking in Woods?   Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:19 pm

Hi!

We are the new owners (4 months in) of a rescue Shepsky. I often take him on hikes in the woods and many people have their dogs offleash. It seems so fun for the dogs to have freedom to explore, so I was thinking about using a long line for Rumo...

But wouldn't the line get tangled around a tree or stuck in the underbrush? Our woods are dense and the trees are close together. Does anybody use a long line in the woods? Or is that only practical if you are in an open field?

If I do buy a long line, should I get a 25' dog-training lead, or a "horse lunge line"? What is best for huskies?

Thank You for any thoughts!
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PostSubject: Re: Long Line when HIking in Woods?   Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:28 pm

One of my dogs does fine on a long line in the woods but she doesn't really stray from the trail. My other dog is excitable and runs everywhere and getting tangled in the trees is an issue. The longer the line the more trouble you can have. I don't do more than 10 or 12 foot flat line. For me a lot just depends on the dog.

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PostSubject: Re: Long Line when HIking in Woods?   Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:25 pm

Aw, your white husky looks so much like Rumo!  :-)

Thanks, yes, 10 or 12' length seems like it would be better for getting tangled!

Do you ever let them trail the line?

I was thinking that I might drop the line briefly on some of the steep downhills...am always afraid that he'll pull me off-balance and I'll twist an ankle and be stuck 2 miles out in the woods with a twisted ankle... (ack, knock on wood). I've taught him not to pull, but we don't always handle roots & rocks at the same pace...he is a lot more balanced and hesitates less  (compared to his wobbly 2-legged human.)!
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PostSubject: Re: Long Line when HIking in Woods?   Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:59 pm

I tried long lines hiking in eastern woods.  Bamp!  Wrong answer.  Tangeled in everything.  Plus, the added length to the, so to speak, fulcrum, gives quite the mechanical advantage when bolting after critters.

As for twisting ankles etc in rocky, rooted, rutted, hilly terrain...I use the traffic lead part of Ami's leash, keep him on heel and use "easy"  He's picked that up quite nicely to the point that when we're in rough terrain and he's on short lead, he actively stabilizes me by moving close against my thigh when he feels my off-balance.  If he doesn't intuitively pick that up, you can always train him to do so.  Ami is a big boy and I am short (and old) so I don't have to lean over much to rest my hand on his withers.

Another option for you would be ecollar training.  Then he could drag a leash (for those areas that are "leash only" by regulation and you would have back up control with the ecollar.
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PostSubject: Re: Long Line when HIking in Woods?   Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:25 pm

@amymeme wrote:
I tried long lines hiking in eastern woods.  Bamp!  Wrong answer.  Tangeled in everything.  Plus, the added length to the, so to speak, fulcrum, gives quite the mechanical advantage when bolting after critters.
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Yes that is what I imagined it might be like ... yep, these are hilly Eastern USA woods where you can't even see through the trees (North Carolina) so I will abandon the idea of a long line ... not practical for our dense hilly woods!

Sigh, trailing the line is probably not good - if he takes off after a deer, I realize there's no way I could run through the underbrush as fast as him, which means I'd lose him unless I fall onto the line and catch it right away...

He is part shepherd so maybe ecollar training could work someday.
So far, his recall is excellent (er, when I am waving a piece of rotisserie chicken  Laughing  )
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PostSubject: Re: Long Line when HIking in Woods?   Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:50 pm

Hiking I use a ten foot lead tied to a belt on one end and to Bodhi's harness on the other.
It works most of the time because he "explores" forward.

At the beach or in an open field, I use a 30 ft. lead so he gets more freedom.

Bodhi is my third husky.
I've learned my lesson from the first two.
He is never off lead.
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PostSubject: Re: Long Line when HIking in Woods?   Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:40 am

I was wondering this too as I am starting to take Enzo on small hikes. I've used the training lead to give him room to roam and imagine I'll do similarly at the beach. I wish he could be leash free, but I dont think Huskies are good candidates. Does anyone have a positive experience with their huskies being Leash Free?
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PostSubject: Re: Long Line when HIking in Woods?   Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:55 am

I'm going to start by saying that I would strongly recommend not going leash free for a husky. They are a tough breed to do leash free.

However, it is possible with lots of training and work.

During the first year with our husky, we did a lot of recall training to get him to listen to us. After he turned a year old, we started working with an e-collar. We trained him to return to us with the beep (same could be done with clicker training, however if he gets too far, he might not hear the clicks, where the collar stays with him).
When I'm shoveling or working in the yard, he'll be outside. I have to keep an eye on him and call him back or beep him if he goes too far. We have some great walking areas that are fairly remote, and we go leash free there. He runs around and chases stuff while exploring the woods. We just keep him in sight and if he gets too far, we beep him back. If he comes across another person or dog, he comes back to us without command now and sits and waits for them to pass.

Again, this took a LOT of work. We still bring a leash in case he's being naughty. We only do this in isolated areas away from traffic. We did a LOT of training. We also had the benefit of an older dog that was very obedient (non-husky) that acted as a good role model (he never needs a leash or even an e-collar). I also would not expect it to work with all Huskies. I doubt that my wife and I could make this work with every husky as their personalities can very greatly.

So, it's possible, with a lot of work, and if the dog has the right personality for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Long Line when HIking in Woods?   Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:02 pm

The other thing about long lines and off leash in the woods...poisonous snakes. In my experience, huskies like to pounce first and ask questions later. Not a good thing in an area with poisonous snakes.
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