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PostSubject: Re: What could be wrong w/ Kody's Nose? =(   Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:27 pm

I've been putting triotic ointment on it. It's really greasy so even if he licks it it stays for a little while. The swelling and redness has gone down sooo much. Even looks like the fur is growing back.

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PostSubject: Re: What could be wrong w/ Kody's Nose? =(   Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:06 pm

I think it might be demodex mange. My husky had it when he was a puppy / adolescent. It is an immune system thing. (might be related to allergies?) I don't think there was much the vet did - I can't really recall. His nose eventually got better - never got much worse than the pics you are showing. But it took until he was well into adulthood. It came and went.
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PostSubject: Re: What could be wrong w/ Kody's Nose? =(   Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:35 pm

So after having hopes that his nose was getting better, it started getting bad again. So when he's up for his annual, I'm going to bring him in and have them do some tests.

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I'm also trying a few things that I may think it's related to. I'm going to try a different food because this was also around the time I made the full switch to TOTW Pacific Stream. He was scratching a lot more as well and I never did see any fleas on him so I'm wondering if it could be a food allergy or that it's just too much for his system. He did fine when I was mixing it with the BBW puppy formula, so I really just don't know...

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PostSubject: Re: What could be wrong w/ Kody's Nose? =(   Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:18 pm

I don't know the answer, but it looks like HNPK. I don't think it is though, because it's only been identified in Labradors.  
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PostSubject: Re: What could be wrong w/ Kody's Nose? =(   Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:16 am

Do you have a doctor around you that specializes in skin? You could try that route. I'd get a scraping, up the fish oil and vitamin, and rub some coconut oil on it. Coconut oil is God's gift to man...antiviral, anti fungal, antibacterial.
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PostSubject: Re: What could be wrong w/ Kody's Nose? =(   Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:59 am

I'll have to look into if we have any vets that are skin specialists. How much fish oil and vitamin e do you think I should give him? He weighs 55lbs right now. I actually stopped supplementing him about a week ago to see if that was causing his issues but it never made any difference. And he'd probably let me put coconut oil on it more easily than the medicine so I'll have to try that as well.

Thanks Megan!

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PostSubject: Re: What could be wrong w/ Kody's Nose? =(   Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:45 am

@mbarnard0429 wrote:
Do you have a doctor around you that specializes in skin? You could try that route. I'd get a scraping, up the fish oil and vitamin, and rub some coconut oil on it. Coconut oil is God's gift to man...antiviral, anti fungal, antibacterial.

I agree! I use it for everything! I recently made a face moisturizer and added a wee bit or oregano oil and that has been great! Totally stopped my hormonal breakouts. For Diz, I started to use straight coconut oil on his feet. It's made a big difference. It soaks in rather quickly, and what doesn't soak in, he licks off, and I don't have to worry about it causing tummy issues. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: What could be wrong w/ Kody's Nose? =(   Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:49 am

I give him coconut oil with his food so he likes it. I have also used it as my own moisturizer! It definitely leaves everything silky smooth even after I have to wash my hands for some reason.

I just put some on his nose. He was a little more accepting of the coconut oil but we'll have to work on it. So here's to hoping it helps (and that I can get him to let me do it at least twice a day)!

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PostSubject: Re: What could be wrong w/ Kody's Nose? =(   Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:39 am

1000mg of salmon oil daily
400 I.U. of vitamin E every other day.

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PostSubject: Re: What could be wrong w/ Kody's Nose? =(   Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:38 pm

@simplify wrote:
So after having hopes that his nose was getting better, it started getting bad again. So when he's up for his annual, I'm going to bring him in and have them do some tests.

These are from today.














I'm also trying a few things that I may think it's related to. I'm going to try a different food because this was also around the time I made the full switch to TOTW Pacific Stream. He was scratching a lot more as well and I never did see any fleas on him so I'm wondering if it could be a food allergy or that it's just too much for his system. He did fine when I was mixing it with the BBW puppy formula, so I really just don't know...


Try a search for idiopathic nasodigital hyperkeratosis - the second and fourth picture in particular shows the hyperkeratotic plaques on the nose - the question is why is he getting these plaques. Ichthyosis in people also gives hyperkeratotic plaquey type things, do not know if dogs get ichthyosis or not
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PostSubject: Re: What could be wrong w/ Kody's Nose? =(   Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:58 pm

There is actually a doctor that specializes in dermatology in Metairie. I'm going to call them and see what they say.

Thanks Amy! It sounds very similar to that and Lupus, so I think I just need to bring him to a specialist.

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PostSubject: Re: What could be wrong w/ Kody's Nose? =(   Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:04 pm

Where is he from? Do you know the breeder?
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PostSubject: Re: What could be wrong w/ Kody's Nose? =(   Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:00 pm

He's from Mikayla Kennels in Arkansas. Not the best breeder.

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PostSubject: Re: What could be wrong w/ Kody's Nose? =(   Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:47 pm

I wonder if there may be a genetic component...if it's lupus it could be
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PostSubject: Re: What could be wrong w/ Kody's Nose? =(   Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:09 pm

I can always email them and ask if they've had any puppies or dogs have lupus or zrd. Zrd is the other possible cause but also seems odd since I already feed the high zinc content foods which is what everything I've read so far says to do as well as supplementing with fish oil.

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