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PostSubject: Re: Sibe's a "large breed" dog?? Needing special food?   Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:22 pm

paleobones wrote:
Since Raven is already over 20 lbs, and is estimated to be about 50 lbs as an adult feeding a large breed puppy food makes more sense to me then feeding her a general puppy food, that may have too much of one thing and not enough of another, or one for small breed dogs.

Both the breeder and my vet recommended large breed puppy food.


I respect your decision and I'm not here to try to change your mind or argue with the "experts" (your breeder and vet). But perhaps you can give me an education on why that makes more sense so that I can better understand your point of view since it sounds like you've been doing your research on what is best to feed and why. I like to play devil's advocate so don't feel I'm calling you out. But can you sell me on why a medium breed individual whose expected adult weight is estimated to be 50-55 lbs should be on a large breed puppy formula?

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PostSubject: Re: Sibe's a "large breed" dog?? Needing special food?   Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:49 am

I was surprised when Raven was sent home with large breed puppy food. I asked lots of questions and read what I could find. I will be the first to admit that I dont know a lot about dogs. But I do know about bones, human bones in particular.

When I read the AKC article about larger puppies needing a longer grow period over small dogs to ensure proper bone and joint development something clicked. People reach ther adult height at around 18 yrs of age but internally growth is still occuring, including bone growth. The last bone to fuse in the human body is the clavicle (collar bone) at around 25 yrs. A full seven years after maximum height was reached.

So what does this have to do with dogs right? lol I just figured by what my vet and you guys also stated on the forums and what I've read that the sibes may reach their adult size height wise around 12 mths but will continue to fill out into the next year and are completely grown by 2yrs.I took what I knew of human bones and applied it to dogs. Meaning that during that filling out period their bones finish growing, ossifying.

Maybe I'm crazy but thats my reasoning for feeding her what I do. And I mean no offense to you but I dont know you at all. When it comes to the health and welfare of my Raven I am going to take the advice of vets and breeders and the AKC over a unknown person on a internet forum. I love this forum though, and I think its a wonderful place to find support and answers.
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PostSubject: Re: Sibe's a "large breed" dog?? Needing special food?   Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:13 am

paleobones wrote:
Raven eats Diamond large breed puppy food. Its what the breeder recommended and our vet commented that its commonly used by breeders because its cheap. She suggested we switch to a premium food so she would eat less and poop less but didn't comment on it being large breed.

I read the feeding guidlines in the AKC New Puppy Handbook its says

"Large-breed puppies will weigh more than 50 pounds when full grown. It takes these big guys about 18 to 24 months to reach their adult size. If they grow too quickly, they can develop problems with their joints and bones. Reduced-calorie foods with less calcium help support the proper rate of growth in large-breed dogs.

It then goes on to say that small breed dogs are those that are under 20 lbs and need higher calorie foods.

Vet says she'll have a better idea at her 4 month checkup but it Raven is estimated to be about 50 pounds as an adult. So the large breed slower growth food seems the proper way to go.



According to this, your breeder advised large breed food - your vet did not and just advised using a premium food. Huskies don't take 18 to 24 months to reach adult size - they take 12 months and as previously advised, don't need the lower calorie food to slow down their growth - therefore according to the handbook, you also don't need large breed food.
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PostSubject: Re: Sibe's a "large breed" dog?? Needing special food?   Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:33 am

Quoted from AKC's website:
'The Siberian Husky is a medium-sized working dog...'

I don't know of one vet or reputable breeder that says Siberian Huskies are a large breed dog....
There are some Siberians that exceed AKC standards making them the size of a large breed - like my Storm - but as a breed standard, they are medium size. I still don't feed Storm a large breed dog food. My female is also at the top end of AKC standards for a female and she also doesn't get fed a large breed dog food. As long as they are fed a good quality dog food and they are getting the nutrition they need is basically what matters.

So even if Raven reaches full height in the first year, and will probably fill out for another year after that, and if Raven still only tops out at 50-55 lbs, that would still be medium size breed.

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PostSubject: Re: Sibe's a "large breed" dog?? Needing special food?   Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:24 am

I never said Sibes were large breed dogs. My vet never said they were a large breed dog. The breeder never said they were large breed dogs.

I said they recommended large breed puppy food for Raven.
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PostSubject: Re: Sibe's a "large breed" dog?? Needing special food?   Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:29 am

I fed all life stages food to my girls specifically Acana and Taste of the Wild. I don't see the need to feed sibes large breed puppy food, unless the breeder is breeding sibes WAY over the breed standard. They aren't supposed to get very tall at all. I see the need for it with Great Danes. A lot of great dane people won't even feed puppy food. They just go straight to adult formula.
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PostSubject: Re: Sibe's a "large breed" dog?? Needing special food?   Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:34 am

But why, if Siberians are a medium breed? They don't have the growth issues large breeds do.m

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PostSubject: Re: Sibe's a "large breed" dog?? Needing special food?   Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:41 am

paleobones wrote:
I never said Sibes were large breed dogs. My vet never said they were a large breed dog. The breeder never said they were large breed dogs.

I said they recommended large breed puppy food for Raven.


I'm curious to know, have they explained their reasons for recommending a large breed puppy food to a medium size dog with no expectation of reaching a large breed size? I'd really like to know.

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