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Tika
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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Thu May 16, 2013 8:43 am

Yeah I was the one who enabled that system when I was looking for fixes.

I had left it up for about 2 or 3 weeks, before I really noticed it was showing how many treats you gave or removed instead of how many you had. Didn't seem right to me to keep it up at that point.

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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Thu May 16, 2013 10:23 am

Fair enough. I just wanted to make sure I didn't have a semi-hallucination spell for a minute there. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Thu May 16, 2013 12:30 pm

Alrighty,

I know this took longer than we all would have liked. I apologize for that. The truth of the matter is this was, and continues to be, a rather hard issue to rectify in a fair and yet controlled manner. There just isn't one solution that is going to appease everyone, and even amongst the staff everyone seemed to have a different way they wanted to handle it.

That being said we seem to have agreed on a solution for the time being.

This doesn't mean this is the final solution, just that we all agreed it warranted being tested live to see how it went.


Firstly the "lock out period" will be lifted. Everyone will be able to "treat" upon registration again. So those members who are a bit more on the new side will gain this ability once again.


Secondly, and if you read this thread in it's entirety, we never liked the idea of the treat system being compared to a LIKE or DISLIKE button. We always saw the system more along the lines of rewarding those who provided you or someone else with good advice or information. It is a way people skimming a thread on this site can read what people believed to be the best, or the poorest, course of action.

To that end the PLUS and MINUS you see now will very soon be replaced with simply "Good Advice / Bad Advice". It may not be the prettiest fix in the world, but if this solution works out and everyone tends to like it I'll change the text to an icon or button later on. Maybe we could even have a competition for people to design a new Icon for the forum at a later date.


"Well if just sounds to me like it's going back to how it was before than?"

It kind of is Mister Voice in my head.... The idea is we want everyone to be able to provide feedback, but the manner in which the + and - were being used were not very responsible. We are hoping by switching the actual text in there, that the idea of what the system should be used for is more apparent to newer members.

At the same time we want to see if making the clickable area bigger will lead to more or less mistakes when people browse from a mobile device Wink. Will there be more accidents?


I'm going to leave the name of these votes as Treats for the time being. It may change to reputation later on, or some other thing... But for now Treats still works, we all understand it, and it's familiar.




As always your feedback is welcome, and encouraged. This was a very hard one for us, and it should have never taken so long, but we are hoping this helps cut down some confusion.

In the next couple of minutes you should notice it appear. Wink


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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Thu May 16, 2013 12:33 pm

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To that end the PLUS and MINUS you see now will very soon be replaced with simple "Good Advice / Bad Advice". It may not be the prettiest fix in the world, but if this solution works out and everyone tends to like it I'll change the text to an icon or button later on. Maybe we could even have a competition for people to design a new Icon for the forum at a later date.
I really think this will make it better. The problem with the +/- was that no one really knew what they meant (unless they read this thread) and just assumed "O hey I like what this person said." Actually having the wording (for now) sounds like it may make it easier to understand how to use.
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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Thu May 16, 2013 1:20 pm

@Tika wrote:
I'm going to leave the name of these votes as Treats for the time being. It may change to reputation later on, or some other thing... But for now Treats still works, we all understand it, and it's familiar.

I think you should leave it as "treats" it is unique and fits the forum. Also makes people say, "hey, what is this." which might actually prompt them to ask or to read this thread Wink.
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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Thu May 16, 2013 2:06 pm

Can we perma-post Sticky threads on the right part of the screen (maybe just above Latest Topics)? It wouldn't even have to be ALL the stickys, just ones that apply to all the forums/sub-forums as a whole. That way, new members (and old members) will have easy access to the important topics? Just a thought...
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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Thu May 16, 2013 4:16 pm

@UndarthAngipoo wrote:
Can we perma-post Sticky threads on the right part of the screen (maybe just above Latest Topics)? It wouldn't even have to be ALL the stickys, just ones that apply to all the forums/sub-forums as a whole. That way, new members (and old members) will have easy access to the important topics? Just a thought...
If magic Chris could figure that out, I would LOVE THAT too. Alas, I have a feeling it's not possible.

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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Thu May 16, 2013 4:36 pm

Is it just me or are a couple of the buttons in the top right wonky now?
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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Thu May 16, 2013 4:41 pm

Which buttons? I'm on Chrome and mine look the same...
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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Thu May 16, 2013 4:49 pm

Im on a laptop and have Firefox; the only difference I see is the "Good Advice/Bad Advice".
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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Thu May 16, 2013 5:20 pm

my register button has been funky and not part of the top bar and i cant see any ones avatar pictures on my work computer running firefox, makes me made.

and yes the only change is the good advice/ bad advice on the right side of your post that got changes. it used to be a +/-

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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Thu May 16, 2013 6:09 pm

Hmmmm... the text/graphic on my quote button and the other two buttons (report maybe?) to the right on the top of the post are wonky - can't read any of them. Using I.E.
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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Thu May 16, 2013 6:52 pm

I'm using Firefox and everything seems to be fine for me...

Anyways I think that the Good Advice/Bad Advice opposed to +/- does make a lot more sense so kudos for that!
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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Thu May 16, 2013 7:13 pm

@Wy Renegade wrote:
Hmmmm... the text/graphic on my quote button and the other two buttons (report maybe?) to the right on the top of the post are wonky - can't read any of them. Using I.E.


I'm on IE right now and it looks fine to me.

That being said I'm on a 30" at home. Grab a screen capture with print screen or snag it and I can look into it.

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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Thu May 16, 2013 7:14 pm

@Koda wrote:
@UndarthAngipoo wrote:
Can we perma-post Sticky threads on the right part of the screen (maybe just above Latest Topics)? It wouldn't even have to be ALL the stickys, just ones that apply to all the forums/sub-forums as a whole. That way, new members (and old members) will have easy access to the important topics? Just a thought...
If magic Chris could figure that out, I would LOVE THAT too. Alas, I have a feeling it's not possible.

I'll see what I can do.

I'm not 100% sure if this is possible, but it SHOULD be.

I'll check if I have down time tomorrow Wink

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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Thu May 16, 2013 7:22 pm

I'm on my tablet and everything looks normal to me.

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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Fri May 17, 2013 9:22 am

@Tika wrote:
@Koda wrote:
@UndarthAngipoo wrote:
Can we perma-post Sticky threads on the right part of the screen (maybe just above Latest Topics)? It wouldn't even have to be ALL the stickys, just ones that apply to all the forums/sub-forums as a whole. That way, new members (and old members) will have easy access to the important topics? Just a thought...
If magic Chris could figure that out, I would LOVE THAT too. Alas, I have a feeling it's not possible.

I'll see what I can do.

I'm not 100% sure if this is possible, but it SHOULD be.

I'll check if I have down time tomorrow Wink

~Chris~


Done.

I'll start a new thread for this "enhancement". Good Call Angela Wink

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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Fri May 17, 2013 9:43 am

@Tika wrote:
@Tika wrote:
@Koda wrote:
@UndarthAngipoo wrote:
Can we perma-post Sticky threads on the right part of the screen (maybe just above Latest Topics)? It wouldn't even have to be ALL the stickys, just ones that apply to all the forums/sub-forums as a whole. That way, new members (and old members) will have easy access to the important topics? Just a thought...
If magic Chris could figure that out, I would LOVE THAT too. Alas, I have a feeling it's not possible.

I'll see what I can do.

I'm not 100% sure if this is possible, but it SHOULD be.

I'll check if I have down time tomorrow Wink

~Chris~


Done.

I'll start a new thread for this "enhancement". Good Call Angela Wink

~Chris~


w00t! (Sorry - it's Friday - I'm allowed to be a little off (read bat-crazy) than normal!
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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Fri May 17, 2013 3:09 pm

@Tika wrote:
@Wy Renegade wrote:
Hmmmm... the text/graphic on my quote button and the other two buttons (report maybe?) to the right on the top of the post are wonky - can't read any of them. Using I.E.


I'm on IE right now and it looks fine to me.

That being said I'm on a 30" at home. Grab a screen capture with print screen or snag it and I can look into it.

~Chris~

Its good today.
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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Mon May 20, 2013 1:56 am

i accidentally just said this was bad advice because i didnt know what i was doing ... 0_0
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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Mon May 27, 2013 12:49 pm

Just wanted to bump this one based on the influx of new members and some things I've been seeing in posts. Remember, the "good advice" button is not a like button, and not for something like "thanks for the information!" or "Wow, your dog is cute!". Please use it for something that is genuinely good advice that makes a really positive contribution to the topic at hand.

Conversely, the "bad advice" button should be reserved for something that is flat wrong or bad information, not just an "I don't like what you're saying" response. Thanks all!

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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Mon May 27, 2013 12:52 pm

Yea I saw it got misused in that breeder thread by the person that was mad at us....
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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Mon May 27, 2013 12:53 pm

I've seen it misused today on the good advice side too, but yes, you're absolutely right.

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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Mon May 27, 2013 2:59 pm

any chance you could add a confirmation screen/pop up? I fat finger the good/bad advice on the phone and think a confirmation would help me stop making inadvertent +/-'s when i'm trying to scroll the page.
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PostSubject: Re: What are "Treats"?   Mon May 27, 2013 3:38 pm

Just a suggestion: Can the ability to give positive and negative treats be turned off for "Newborns"? That will give new members a chance to become acquainted with forum rules. If they decide to stay, and reach 50 posts the ability to give treats automatically gets activated. I dont know if this is possible, it's just an idea.

Several of us got negative treats from a crazy "breeder" that only joined the forum just to harass us.
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