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PostSubject: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyThu Mar 21, 2013 3:53 pm

What types of worms would Diatomaceous Earth kill? I've heard it works well with fleas too, but I'm not positive on that either
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyThu Mar 21, 2013 4:07 pm

I've only used it for fleas. All three of mine got fleas after visiting Iowa for a weekend, I put in on them and the carpets and it worked really well
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyThu Mar 21, 2013 4:12 pm

I like the idea of have a multi-use flea, if I ever need it for that, and worm killer, but I wasn't sure if anybody had any experience using it at a dewormer. Would be great if it's safe and natural!
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyThu Mar 21, 2013 4:17 pm

I'm skeptical of the idea that DE would work as a de-wormer. DE is made up of diatoms, which are silicate bacteria. Since they are basically made of glass, their cell walls are irregular and very, very sharp. So DE kills surface parasites and household insects by microscopically slashing their carapaces/skin so that they dry out.

It probably won't work for worms, though, since they are a) more resiliant and b) in a moist environment. Many worms are segmented, as well, so any damage to part of the worm is just discarded and regrown.

Not sure if it's safe for anyone to eat, but I'd be hesitant to eat it myself.
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyThu Mar 21, 2013 4:20 pm

Glass makes me nervous, I feel like that would cut their intestines O_O
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyThu Mar 21, 2013 4:28 pm

Most doctors and pharmacists recommend against eating foot-grade Diatomaceous Earth for that very reason. That said, they are really tiny and both people and dogs are really big by comparison so you likely won't cause significant internal damage. You might burst a few cell membranes, but the digestive tract can take a lot of punishment.

And of course, skin is even more durable so DE is totally safe as a flea-killer.
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyThu Mar 21, 2013 4:48 pm

actually, I personally have eaten DE without issue. I know many people who use DE effectively to worm animals, but it is more time consuming than using a dewormer. I wouldn't hesitate to use DE. It is not unsafe and much safe than most chemicals.

However, I use this dewormer:

http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=30e0766b-7b6a-11d5-a192-00b0d0204ae5&ccd=IFF003&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&mr:referralID=f74642ff-925f-11e2-9389-001b2166c62d


That whole bottles lasts a very, very long time.
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyThu Mar 21, 2013 4:55 pm

How would I measure that out for the dogs?
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyThu Mar 21, 2013 5:07 pm

i give .1 mL per 5lbs
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyThu Mar 21, 2013 5:13 pm

is it through a syringe like the other one you showed me to for cattle?
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyThu Mar 21, 2013 5:16 pm

Thanks Megan Very Happy How is DE more time consuming than dewormer?
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyThu Mar 21, 2013 5:28 pm

Yup jennet, but no needle required.

It just takes weeks to deworm with de and days with the wormer
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyThu Mar 21, 2013 5:34 pm

Alrighty. So that dewormer comes in a paste? I wasn't sure cause the container

And I don't really have a problem with DE taking longer. I already have to prepare wet food supplemented with Lysine for one of the cats, mixing some DE in the dogs' daily eggs wouldn't be to hard.
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyThu Mar 21, 2013 5:44 pm

mheath0429 wrote:
actually, I personally have eaten DE without issue. I know many people who use DE effectively to worm animals, but it is more time consuming than using a dewormer. I wouldn't hesitate to use DE. It is not unsafe and much safe than most chemicals.

However, I use this dewormer:

http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=30e0766b-7b6a-11d5-a192-00b0d0204ae5&ccd=IFF003&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&mr:referralID=f74642ff-925f-11e2-9389-001b2166c62d


That whole bottles lasts a very, very long time.
Does this cover heart-worm too?
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyThu Mar 21, 2013 8:32 pm

It's a thick liquid, not quite a paste.

You have to be very selective about DE brands and doses.

The wormer does not cover heartworm too. I use ivomec for that
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyThu Mar 21, 2013 9:38 pm

Can't Ivomec be used for all around worming too though?
And how many times in a row would I have to give the safe-guard for it to work?
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyFri Mar 22, 2013 1:14 am

I wouldn't use ivomec for routine worming... Safeguard given weekly for 3 weeks should be more than fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyFri Mar 22, 2013 7:26 pm

Thanks Megan C:
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyMon Apr 08, 2013 9:15 pm

Not to bring this up again, but does anybody by chance know if cats can take the Safe-guard, and at what dosage? I already have it and I'd like to save money by not buying the drontal if I don't have to.
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyTue Apr 09, 2013 12:23 am

I did a write up on this - and yes any animal can take it. 1/2 tsp is usually appropriate to cats, as I liek to keep it a low dose.


Tip - wet the spoon and then get the DE out, it will keep it from getting too powdery.
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyTue Apr 09, 2013 12:49 am

Nono, I meant the Safe-Guard, I'm sorry Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyTue Apr 09, 2013 1:01 am

OHH sorry, I didn't read that correctly. Honestly, I'm not sure. Perhaps jump on a few cat forums? I've never bothered using it on my cats.
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PostSubject: Re: Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer?   Diatomaceous Earth as Dewormer? EmptyTue Apr 09, 2013 10:31 pm

I asked on the cat forum I frequent and one person just linked me to some Drontal so I'll probably call my vet tomorrow and ask. Thanks :]
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