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PostSubject: are puppies purebred?   are puppies purebred? EmptyTue Aug 03, 2021 2:01 pm

Hello! I have a quick question. In February I mated a female with a copper musician and got mostly black and 2 gray puppies (actually it seems to me that one is an agouti). I asked many breeders all say they are huskies but there are people who woke me up suspicion that they are not. Please write your opinion about the puppies. Here are pictures of the parents and them:
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PostSubject: Re: are puppies purebred?   are puppies purebred? EmptyTue Aug 03, 2021 2:12 pm

Why would you think they are mixed? And - Agouti means that the individual hairs have 3 bands of color. Not that the pup is "dirty faced."

Cute pups.
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PostSubject: Re: are puppies purebred?   are puppies purebred? EmptyTue Aug 03, 2021 2:13 pm

Also - before your breeding - did you have the parents health tested for diseases common to Siberians? Specifically - eyes and hips?
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PostSubject: Re: are puppies purebred?   are puppies purebred? EmptyTue Aug 03, 2021 2:23 pm

I see nothing to make me think they are anything but (some very cute) Huskies.

You appear to be Serbian??? An explanation of what some of the abbreviations on the parents pictures would be helpful / interesting.

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PostSubject: Re: are puppies purebred?   are puppies purebred? EmptyTue Aug 03, 2021 2:24 pm

@amymeme wrote:
Also - before your breeding - did you have the parents health tested for diseases common to Siberians? Specifically - eyes and hips?
We tested everything.
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PostSubject: Re: are puppies purebred?   are puppies purebred? EmptyTue Aug 03, 2021 2:34 pm

@aljones wrote:
I see nothing to make me think they are anything but (some very cute) Huskies.

You appear to be Serbian??? An explanation of what some of the abbreviations on the parents pictures would be helpful / interesting.
There are the names and grades of the parents. The mother has a grade of five and CAC (National Show) and the father is a PRM dog (I don't know if it is marked as such in other countries). The father comes from the best dogs in Serbia, and the mother's father from the former strongest Balkan kennel.Here is pics of grand parents and great grend parents:
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PostSubject: Re: are puppies purebred?   are puppies purebred? EmptyTue Aug 03, 2021 2:40 pm

@Sara668 wrote:
@aljones wrote:
I see nothing to make me think they are anything but (some very cute) Huskies.

You appear to be Serbian??? An explanation of what some of the abbreviations on the parents pictures would be helpful / interesting.
There are the names and grades of the parents. The mother has a grade of five and CAC (National Show) and the father is a PRM dog (I don't know if it is marked as such in other countries). The father comes from the best dogs in Serbia, and the mother's father from the former strongest Balkan kennel.Here is pics of grand parents and great grend parents:
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PostSubject: Re: are puppies purebred?   are puppies purebred? EmptyTue Aug 03, 2021 2:52 pm

@amymeme wrote:
Why would you think they are mixed? And - Agouti means that the individual hairs have 3 bands of color. Not that the pup is "dirty faced."

Cute pups.
A lot of bad things happened to my dogs and co-owners during the , in a short period, first a monster from a man killed my female who was supposed to come live with me when we bought the house then a pregnant Caucasian female was poisoned, and in the end, the mother of these puppies had complications during natural birth, so the veterinarian had to intervene. And a week after mating, she ran away, but I think that is the end of ovulation.
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PostSubject: Re: are puppies purebred?   are puppies purebred? EmptyWed Aug 18, 2021 10:33 am

< bosnian text > Ako sam dobro shvatila, zenka je pobjegla nakon parenja i sada niste sigurni je li doslo do parenja s nekim muzjakom za vrijeme dok je bila odsutna. Nazalost, ovo je velika greska i zaista je neodgovorno prodavati stence kao cistokrvne ako niste sigurni u cistocu linije. Ne preostaje vam nista drugo osim da napravite DNA test za stence. Ovako stene moze izgledati kao cistokrvno a to ustvari mozda i nije, cistokrvnost se nikako ne moze procijeniti na temelju izgleda. Znate kako izgleda pedigre, u svakom rodovniku mojih pasa navedena je linija predaka, rezultati njihovih predaka itd. Sve dalje od pradjedova i prabaka nalazi se u kinoloskoj bazi tako da se sve pretke može pratiti barem unazad 30 god. Ako i prodate stene kao cistokrvno samo na temelju izgleda, kada buduci vlasnik dodje na CAC, CACIB itd. suci ce to primijetiti, provjeravati ce i najmanju sitnicu (ako ste sudjelovali na izlozbama to znate i sami). Nemojte molim Vas ovo shvatiti kao napad, i sama imam zenku koja je "cistokrvna" ali ne mogu do njezinog rodovnika stoga je iskljucena iz uzgoja i sterilizirana. Pokusajte svakako napraviti DNA testove.


If I understood correctly, the female escaped after breeding and now you're not sure if she mated with some other male while she was gone. Unfortunately, this is a big mistake and it is really irresponsible to sell puppies as purebreds if you are not sure about the purity of the line. You have no choice but to do a DNA test for puppies. They may look purebred but in fact they may not be purebred at all. You can not guarantee that on the basis of their looks. You know what a pedigree looks like. Each pedigree of my dogs shows the line of their ancestors, the health results of those ancestors, etc. If you sell the puppies as purebreds only on the basis of their appearance, when the future owner comes to CAC, CACIB, etc. the judges will notice it, they check even the smallest detail (if you participated in shows you know that). Please don’t take this the wrong way, I for example now have a female who is “purebred” but I can’t get to her pedigree so she is excluded from breeding and she is fixed. Be sure to try to do DNA tests.


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PostSubject: Re: are puppies purebred?   are puppies purebred? EmptyWed Aug 18, 2021 6:45 pm

They look purebred to me. Some people wont say a breed is pure just because it doesn't match the common looks. Like an example is if a German shepherd is Sable...many people are like "uh they're only black and tan"
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PostSubject: Re: are puppies purebred?   are puppies purebred? EmptyWed Aug 18, 2021 9:55 pm

Ive always wanted a panda german shepherd. But i hear shadow cant be a purebred gsd all the time because he is brindle. Phenotyping only goes so far. 3 sets of papers and dna verification prove that.

Im in lpve with the dark grey pup
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PostSubject: Re: are puppies purebred?   are puppies purebred? EmptyFri Aug 20, 2021 4:09 am

@Maja
Parili smo je zadnji dan(tj 14) do tada je bilo sve osigurano da ni jedan pas ne moze da je upari(kod nje su obično dani od 9 do 14 ) ,pobegla je 18 i 19 dan sto je 3 ili 4 dana pred kraj teranja.Pradeda joj je pas sa Full maskom zatim njegovi preci su takodje sa full maskom i agutiji.Boje su me iznenadile jer je mužijak narandžast a ona crna ženka sa Domino maskom dok je njena tetka Aguti a ćerka od te ženke mostly black.We mated her on the last day (ie 14) until then everything was ensured that no dog could mate her (she usually has days 9 to 14), she ran away on the 18th and 19th day which is 3 or 4 days before the end Her great-grandfather is a dog with a Full mask, then his ancestors are also with a full mask and aguti. The colors surprised me because the male is orange and she is a black female with a Domino mask while her aunt Aguti and the daughter of that female are mostly black


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PostSubject: Re: are puppies purebred?   are puppies purebred? EmptyFri Aug 20, 2021 4:19 am

http://ingrus.net/husky/en/details/60194 evo Onilne pedigree.Uskoro cu da ih prijavim na nasu bazu rodoslova koja je mnogo tacnija od ingrusa.
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PostSubject: Re: are puppies purebred?   are puppies purebred? EmptyFri Aug 20, 2021 5:25 am

@Lostmaniac wrote:
Ive always wanted a panda german shepherd.  But i hear shadow cant be a purebred gsd all the time because he is brindle. Phenotyping only goes so far.  3 sets of papers and dna verification prove that.

Im in lpve with the dark grey 
I am in love with him too.


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PostSubject: Re: are puppies purebred?   are puppies purebred? EmptyFri Aug 20, 2021 5:33 am

Here are some of their ancestors (dogs that are ideal working dogs)
Dancer Arjako
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His Great Grear grand father

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This is dogs in the end of pedigree


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