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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptyWed Jun 08, 2022 10:36 pm

No idea how the mouse got in there except maybe the cap didn't get screwed on before it was put away.

Reading the weather headlines/warning re heatwave. Are you staying through that or getting out of dodge for the duration?
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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptyThu Jun 09, 2022 10:59 am

I'd like to get out of Dodge - well, really I'd like to head towards Dodge since it's about 10 degrees cooler than we are.

The dogs and I are maintaining - though 'maintaining' means that we all sleep during the hottest part of the day (14:00 - 17:00) or at least they do, I normally catch an hour or so.  We need the rain and we got a decent shower last evening (my tanks still aren't full so it wasn't much) the combination of desperately needed rain producing higher humidity levels and the already higher temperatures make it unbearable for man and beast. Speaking for myself, I'm generally good up to 100° as long as the humidity level is low (read 15% or less), but I have two fans that I turned on last month that haven't been turned off. The pups just look for the coolest piece of tile they can find - want nothing to do with a fan even if the breeze would help. At 09:00 it's a nice 80 (heading to 101 - we might break 100) but the humidity is 49%. That'll drop as the day goes on but not far enough to make a comfortable 100, it'll be a muggy 100 and that's miserable! For some reason the breeze (5-10MPH) that's a norm on the desert have been saving themselves during the day and coming in at 30+ just before sundown. 105° with 10% humidity and a light breeze is nicely bearable.

I wanted to make a trip north (Jefferson county New York) this summer but of course just before I was ready to go I had to put about $1600 into the Jeep which meant my available funds for said trip were limited. Add to that I spent another $1800 for two LiFePo batteries for my electrical system and my funds were more than limited. (( oops Sky is telling me she wants back in - she literally bounces off the sliding glass doors )) Add to that the price of gas - we're at about the $5.00 mark - and that makes any travel expensive.

From what I'm seeing of the weather I'd have been going from the oven to the ice-box (at least ice-box for me!) highs in the 70's might be nice but cool overnight in the 50's would be downright chilly!

I've tried various 'cooling' techniques for the pups but they turn their noses up at them. I got a cooling pad - that they both ignored. I've tried ice in their water - they wait till it melts. Damp/wet towels - got ignored. Wetting them down - Sky tolerates getting wet, Avalanche literally runs if I reach for a hose!

Both of them are spending their days inside - don't blame them a bit - they want out in the morning to take care of necessities then it's "Let me in!" 'course my front porch is on the east side of the house and the sun, even early, is pretty intense. Sunset's about 21:00 - but the temp doesn't drop significantly till after midnight then we get a few hours of good cool (well, 85 is cool compared to 105) temps.

I have all the gear to camp with but I'm really wondering if *I'm* ready to camp. It's been 8-10 years since I've lived in a tent. I used to 'KOA' my way around when I wanted to get out but it's amazing to me the number of KOA's who have become dog UNfriendly - never ran into that before. I checked to see what the campgrounds were like between here and NY and it seemed about half of them didn't want dogs on the premises.

It's still early and I'm rambling ...

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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptyThu Jun 09, 2022 4:53 pm

Cool overnights? How about today's high of 62⁰? Pool liner surprised to be replaced next week. Weather permitting 🙄 hopefully all goes well. Holding my breath they don't tell me the pool is too far gone. Is like to keep the pool at least until my youngest grandchild flies the nest. And I can noon longer get in or out...
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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptyThu Jun 09, 2022 5:46 pm

We had some crappy koa experiences so moved to camping at military bases. And ours mostly had to do with dog reasons also. Me and squirt have been prepping to go out to the la garita caldera. Really its an overnight hike but due to missing people and whispers around the valley, jerry doesnt want me going alone overnight so i need to prep for 16 miles plus exploring in 1 day.

Gas went up 20 cents overnight here. Jeep needs $2300 of work, anything that costs money is out right now.

Its been miserably hot for 8400 ft but nothing compared to south of here or west of here. Squirt came from the santa ana Navajo rez splinter was from Albuquerque shadow is from sante fe and they run from the sun and the heat like vampires.
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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptyFri Jun 10, 2022 1:13 pm

Ok guys - don't hate me. But - last 2 nights had to use electric blanket. Even with blanket and heavy down comforter, hubby woke up shivering 2 nights ago. And this morning? Welp - I have sweat pants, a long sleeve fleece shirt, wool socks and a vest lined with thinsulate and micro fleece. By noon, finally up to 65⁰ outside. May be able to shed a layer...
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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptyFri Jun 10, 2022 4:30 pm

@Amymeme did you move to Siberia just to make the dogs a 'normal home' or maybe up to Nunivut? I look at the weather map of the US and have to wonder if we're all really in the same country...

The southwest dry, hot, drought conditions over almost all of it; the northeast rainy, wet, cold ... swampy ... nope, these have to be two different countries that are worlds apart.

65!!! I'd have on more than the sweat pants and fleece lined shirt that I don't have!!!!

Here's really wishing there were some way to trade some of the wet, cool for our dry and hot...

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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptySun Jun 12, 2022 1:29 pm

These stupid pups of mine are gonna drive me to drink!

I'd been working out back with the back patio doors open and came in the front and let the dogs in at the same time.  Needless to say they came in the front door and immediately went out the back ... well scheize!  The (not so) funny part is that it was in the early afternoon when we'd only gotten to about 95° and they were back at the front door in about 10 minutes!  Guess they decided that it was too warm for a romp.

On the other hand, I've left Sasha's crate set up in the living room (it makes the perfect side table to collect miscellaneous crap), I used it for my last cat when she needed a safe place that wasn't out of the crowd so the 'fleece cushion' wasn't the cleanest thing in my house.  Now since Avalanche has been taking Sky place in her crate I figured I wash the cushion so Avalanche would have a place of his own.  Put the cushion down in the crate, took Avalanche over to it and guided him in ... so he turns around and walks right back out.  Threw a treat into it last night and he goes in, gets the treat and comes back out ... lotta good it did me to wash the pad, he apparently wants nothing to do with that crate ... wonder what's going through his mind???

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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptyMon Jun 13, 2022 10:08 am

I ask myself what's going through his mind every time Kye waits until he is desperate to pee to ask to go out and then he pees on the porch. I'm about to the point where I'm going to put diapers on this dog. He makes me so angry. The dog has a bladder that can apparently hold multiple gallons of water and he has next to no control over it once he starts walking.

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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptyFri Jun 17, 2022 9:16 pm

65 sounds like perfect weather for swimming and outdoor stuff tho id prefer it in the 50s if im not getting wet. But it hit 92 earlier and im wondering how long exactly is safe to leave a 7 yr old in the car with the windows up. And not a dog but the kid i babaysit is in my jeep with my tablet and im wondering how long until he comes inside. Current temp of 81 and not sunny. Should be ok
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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptyFri Jun 17, 2022 10:34 pm

NO!!!!  81 - even a not sunny 81 can turn into well over 100 in 15 minutes!  With the windows up, even faster.

A 7 year old may not notice how hot it's getting, especially if they're occupied until they keel over.  Kids don't recognize "HOT" the way an adult would because they haven't been taught that it's dangerous, they just figure it's hot.  Please don't do that ....

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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptySat Jun 18, 2022 12:19 am

In NY, you would be arrested leaving child alone in car let alone in car with closed windows! It is not safe.
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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptySat Jun 18, 2022 2:59 am

Doors were unlocked in the shade in his driveway and ac had just been on. I wouldnt trust leaving him in the car anywhere else regardless of temp. He has adhd and odd so he might not be there when i got back. Hes like a husky that speaks English. I was periodically checking him and at one point he opened the door. I made him come inside at 7 for dinner.

Last year he got his ass chewed by the del norte chief of police for calling 911 repeatedly and they threatened to arrest him. Then there was a 911 call about an attempted kidnapping at the park because he threw a fit about leaving and per his mothers instructions, i picked him up. Phone call to her resolved it in 5 seconds. So sometimes when hes behaving. It much easier to leave him alone. 2 hours of minecraft was more then enough. I call him spiders soul mate.

But really if you swapped kid with dog throwing a tantrum about leaving a park you've just described half of the youtube and tictok vids of huskies.

@aljones how you and the dogs handing the heat. We had a heat advisory today then a thunderstorm. This southwest/west heat wave is insane.
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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptySat Jun 18, 2022 4:52 pm

You had a heat advisory yesterday - well, gee, I feel left out!!  We didn't have one yesterday or today - not sure why we don't have one today, the temp's predicted to be around 100 with 25% humidity (that's high humidity for here) and that's dangerous territory for the dumb tourists.

Most of our tourists fall into the dumb category. They get here when the temp's around 90 with single digit humidity and figure that that's not bad ('course the low humidity level means that anything you sweat out evaporates immediately so you feel cooler) then they take off across the desert with no water ( 'cause they're not sweating up a storm ) and an hour into a hike they suddenly realize that the 90 has turned into 100 and it's hot and they're thirsty. Haven't lost anyone yet this year but it's not for want of their trying.

The dogs and I hibernate during the day, they're crashed in their respective corners at the moment and they'll stay there until about 19:00 (an hour late for supper but it's their call) with occasional visits to the water bowl. We've been running hot this year with most days at / around 100 but most days we've had low humidity so it's tolerable. 'Course I'm closed in after letting the house cool overnight, I'll open the sliding doors when the sun gets low (about 19:00) and see if I can get some of the breeze before the winds kick in.
Beside the higher temps this year and last that's been an oddity, we've normally had a breeze during the day that dies off at night ... this year we haven't had much of a daytime breeze but it kicks up into a dust storm with 30+ MPH winds for an hour or so before sundown.



If you'd given the circumstances about kid in truck? it would have made a world of difference in my response. Setting in the shade in the driveway - he's gotten away from everyone and has his "privacy", good place for the youngster.

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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptySat Jun 18, 2022 5:58 pm

Are these dumb tourists from Colorado? There is scientific proof that the higher the elevation you grow up in, the lower your iq is. Here they go out thinking its nice and beautiful and then the sun goes down and up higher its still going below freezing at night. Maybe people just dont understand desert regions or maybe most pople are stupid. Or they bring matches and set the national forest in fire.

As to yesterday's heat advisory, between hitting 93 and the smoke they were telling everyone get inside in ac. The offgridders mostly cant power ac, alot of folks that have normal electricity dont have an ac, or cant afford to run it anyway.

Today is supposed to be nice temp wise for what its been lately but 79 is more like end of july temps and the wind before the monsoon is abnormal. But even windy season isn't normally 45 mph sustained winds.

Dogs started flipping out at 3am and i heard what sounded like thunder and went back to sleep. I guess we had a really deep earthquake in the aquifer because there is orange dirt in the water. Happens every once and awhile but means hot water tank, pressure tank, and all the plumbing has to get flushed. Our unused irrigation well ran orange for about a min before the pipe cleared. Dormant volcanoes especially dormant super volcanoes give you some warning when they start waking up (i hope).

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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptyWed Jun 22, 2022 10:01 am

I'm working on heat acclimation for cycling currently. Went out and did a quick jaunt (25 miles) on the bike last thursday and saw a thermometer board read 101 while out. We have been sitting around 60% humidity on any given day. It was a miserable ride and definitely pushed the limits of my heat tolerance. I'm prepping for a 75 mile bike event in August that will have a lot (for around here anyway) elevation gain so have been going out a couple times a week in the afternoon/evening to ride in prep. The humidity here usually gets tourists woed up before they get themselves in too much trouble heat-wise. Now if they could just learn to drive.

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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptyWed Jun 22, 2022 3:54 pm

@twisterII what type of tourists.. the "slow down and enjoy the scenery ones", the "im scared to drive my rig the speed limit" ones or the "i have an out of state license plate so traffic laws dont apply" type. Oh and then we have the "wind/snow/weather is scary" type.

Lots of people on bikes lately here.  All the power to them for riding on the side of the highway. Too many cyclists intentionally hit by cars in Colorado.


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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptyWed Jun 22, 2022 8:39 pm

@lostmaniac the slow down and enjoy the scenery type's don't bug me too much, it's the one who just cross a hill and decide that "This is so beautiful, I want a picture!" types. Coming down the highway at 75, crest a hill and have to try not to hit them! Surprisingly, few of them ever do get rear ended ...

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PostSubject: Re: The Desert Pack   The Desert Pack - Page 24 EmptyWed Jun 22, 2022 9:54 pm

Every year someone stops in the rockslide avalanche zone to take a picture of this really beautiful waterfall and gets taken out by something. Lots of funny tourists getting vehicles totaled, but not usually rear ended. Lots of accidents involve cows or bighorn sheep. Gotta love the "but i was going the speed limit" as if deer and cows can read highway signs.

I never realized how big a bison is until one was next to my jeep this afternoon. Kinda funny to see them wandering in del norte today walking down main st. Looks like someone had left a gate open on their field.
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